"Again and again, and again.
Layer OFF or Freeze is a layerproperty and will hide all objects in your DWG.
You can see the properties of a layer at 10 different menus, but it is still just on layer"
I understand what you're saying but unless I'm misinterpreting what you're saying it's not that simple.
First we're dealing with 3 different things. Not trying to be condescending but letting you know where some of the miscommunication may be.
1. Layoff & layfreeze are commands I typically use in model space because I prefer to work there over PS. BUT, they are also layer properties that can be accessed in the layer manager and from within a viewport.
2. In the layer manager you can Freeze/Thaw & Turn ON/Off layers in model space. AND you can also VP Freeze/ Thaw there as well. But you can't VP Turn On/OFF layers because it doesn't exist.
3. BUT, in the layer states layer settings you can only "Freeze in all viewports".
So, my workflow would typically be (before working with layer states)....
(Note I'm setup so I don't use a plot style to plot and let layers handle lineweights & colors. Assign Black and grey colors to lines within the viewports so read as will plot and print.)
1. Create my drawings in MS.
2. Create a sheet with a viewport.
3. Open Viewport and VP Freeze, change color to black (or gray) for layers that I want to be visible on the sheet through the viewport.
4. Say I have a consultants Sheet Border imported into paperspace but its not black so I override the layer colors in paperspace without going through the viewport for the titleblock only..... because its all that matters. I don't care about all the other layers and wish I didn't have to see them. Only reason I have to change the colors is so they will plot correctly (see above).
5. Print.
6. Most times go back to MS to work but occassionally will work through a viewport.
I'm bringing this up to let you know that I do know a little about how the process works.
That being said, I can't get my head wrapped around why I can't create a layer state that will work the same way in paperspace. I mean it's basically the same thing I'm doing without layer states.... Assigning overides to what's happening in model space.
"The program acting the same way in paperspace, as in your viewport" You would think. On the surface yes. BUT. If I "assign" or attempt to "assign" a layer state to paperspace (not in a viewport) AND I delete the unwanted layers in the layer state AND I have the Turn off layers not in layer state function selected then when I assign the layer state I want to paperspace, all the layers that I have turned off (because I deleted them) not only disappear in the layout but also all the viewports (and maybe model space). Whether this is the way it is intended or not is not as I would expect for the function of the tool.
I understand that if you turn OFF anything in model space (or freeze it for that matter) it will turn off everywhere else in the model (sheets etc). I guess in my small way of thinking I was the "turn off layers not found in layer state" would only affect those layers assigned to a particular layer state..... not globally. I mean what's the point of having them turn off everywhere?
"Turn on your "unknown layer off" setting -> it happen the same thing.
This layer will turning off, because you enabled this option and the layer is unknown in your layerstate." Maybe this is what you are getting at here.
