Hatch, Superhatch, and Wipeout?

[akaterr55]

Pardon the Rant

I believe we have asked for the solid hatch to have the option for that elusive dynamic color called "Background Color", in the spirit of Wipeout and Textmask, for quite a while now, to no avail.  Apparently, all the clever workarounds for the lack of this obviously useful feature have been deemed good enough to warrant ignoring those requests.

Suppose I wanted a masked area with holes in it, maybe some arcs or circles, hey even some ellipses, maybe some kind of island detection feature, that other than allowing the geometry behind it to show thru the openings, appears as the same color as the current background, and plots and pdf's just like, say, a wipeout or a textmask?  And maybe that mask could be a solid hatch with the color set to "Background Color".  

It would be nice to have that “background color” option for solid hatch, and not need any of a number of clever, but still cheesy workarounds that only looks right on the screen if I set the hatch color, my (and everyone else’s) display settings just right (such as the same background color for mspace and pspace), and then modify plot tables/pen settings to get it to plot something close to correctly. And any drawings I send out, advise the recipients that They have to accommodate ME.  Now, That seems a little excessive in lieu of a "Background" color option for solid hatches. Don’t tell me that true color or white or black or any of the other workarounds is good enough, because it is NOT.

Am I missing something?  Do we already have this feature tucked away in a corner somewhere?  Does “Superhatch” “Wipeout” actually work?  For Anyone?  Is it there and we just don’t talk about it? Is it a secret?  Maybe it IS there, but we’re embarrassed?  Is this some kind of programmatic impossibility? Or is it something else. This should have been featured within one release after wipeouts and textmasks. 

We can have wipeouts that cannot have arcs or holes, or we can have solid hatches that can have curves and holes, but must be an assigned color. I’m not a programmer of new objects, and I understand that hatch and wipeout are two different animals, but it escapes me how the chameleon-like “background color” of the wipeout cannot be applied to solid hatches.  No seriously, now that I’ve chided our friends at Autodesk about this, what IS the deal? 

This feature should be implemented in the first available release, and a patch back to a reasonable number of previous releases should be made available for download.  Or maybe someone should just fix the superhatch "wipeout" feature and make that available. Maybe some clever user can fix it for us and share. It looks pretty obvious that's the only way its going to happen.

[akaterr55]

Looking at the superhatch lisp code (it doesn't seem to have changed much if any in 7 years))), I don't see where it could have ever worked or been made to work as written.  It looks to me like the author had ideas, but the code was left unfinished.  But that brings us back to my original post about solid hatch with backgound color option.

     Is the Autodesk programming team just stretched too thin or is out-of-the-box Autocad becoming something of a backwater worthy only of AOL-like yearly releases. 

 Really, is changing the year, a couple doodads, and the splash screen, worthy of being called a new release?

     LeeMac, Any Ideas on making the solid hatch backgound color option a reality?  I know you can do it!  And i hope when you do, you give me the code so i can use it, copywrite it so autodesk can't have it, and if they do want it, you give autodesk a healthy bill for doing what they should have done long ago.

Shame on you autodesk.  Shame on you for ignoring your customers.  Shame on you for forcing me to shame you. 

[akaterr55]

I was informed that i do not speak for all of Autodesk's or Autocad customers.  It was not my intention to do that.

It started with a simple question about hatching and wipeouts.  It seemed simple enough, about having the versatility of a solid hatch with the utility of a wipeout.  What i found was over the years, many others had the same request, only to be ignored by Autodesk.

That is what irked me.  But I still stand by my shaming of Autodesk for ignoring its customers when its deemed user-based workarounds are "good enough"

[Pawel_Marchewka]

akaterr55 is right. 2022 and still no wipeout hatch. This would far more clear in drawing than hatching in 255,255,255 color.

[pendean]

@Pawel_Marchewka @akaterr55 Ask for new features and abilities instead of waiting and hoping they show up out of thin air: Autodesk looks for user input right here, post whenever and how many time you wish https://www.autodesk.com/company/contact-us/product-feedback

HTH

[jdueckX6VYM]

This would be an extremely useful feature. I hope it is implemented soon