Egnyte as cloud storage partner

Egnyte as cloud storage partner

gshoopYVL9B
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Egnyte as cloud storage partner

gshoopYVL9B
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Hello everyone!  Last year my company switched from local on-site servers to Egnyte for a cloud-based network.  After a few tweaks here and there, everything is working well (sure beats the pants off the old VPN we were using).  However, there are features missing on the Autodesk side that would be nice, like file version history in Activity Insights.  After some digging, there is an 'Autodesk cloud partner program' that includes some other cloud services, but not Egnyte.  Anybody else out there using Egnyte and would like to see these features added?

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dallenSWWUY
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Explorer

Couldn't agree more with this.  I would love to see Egnyte added to the cloud partner program so that we can effectively use the missing features!  Given how closely Egnyte works with Autodesk (per our Egnyte representatives), it seems like this should be an easy layup of a win.  Hopefully that's something that can be brought to fruition sooner than later.

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lbergman48NVK
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Explorer

Using Egnyte daily and would love to see these features added!  Autodesk cloud services would be beneficial in enhancing our workshare.  Would love to see this type of cohesion happen.

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ldrelick
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Explorer

We use Egnyte daily, it is a big step up from maintaining servers onsite. Adding Autodesk services will make it even better!

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jleeFFZQA
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Explorer

Would love to see Autodesk & Egnyte connect product specs and user benefits. Having access to all features would be advantageous!

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namurtD774W
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Community Visitor

Please add Egnyte as a source or connection. We operate in both and they are critical to our workflows. They have been a great partner.

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manieshkumar.suresh
Autodesk
Autodesk

Hi there,

 

 

 This would be a helpful feature to add to the program and feel that you raise a very good case for enhancing the product. If you could take the time to express the need for this feature, your input will go a long way to expediting its inclusion in future releases of the software.

 

Autodesk Product Feedback Link

 

This is a feedback page where customers can make suggestions. This page is monitored by product managers who affect real change and this request can go a long way toward changing the product for the better.

 

 

Plugin with AutoCAD - https://apps.autodesk.com/ACD/en/Detail/Index?id=2767362273600226513&mode=previewhttps://apps.autode...

I would recommend you check this forum - https://www.autodesk.com/integrations/partner/egnyte

 

https://www.egnyte.com/blog/post/easily-sync-your-drawings-with-egnyte-autocad/https://www.egnyte.co...

 




Maniesh Kumar Suresh

Escalation Lead


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Message 8 of 15

ddanHW2MK
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Would be awesome to implement all cloud features and functions that Egnyte has to offer into the Autodesk program.

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Message 9 of 15

JamesMaeding
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@gshoopYVL9B 

I know I am 2 months late on this thread, but we are using egnyte and having several critical issues.

Its been hard to find people on egnyte but must be lots.

I wanted to ask:

1) do you use a smartcache server at the office(s)?

2) did you see deleted files reappear sometimes, usually a few minutes later.

3) did you get really slow right click menu performance in explorer, for first click every 5 minutes or so?

4) Do you use the "sync for offline access" much?

5) Do you get long pauses in acad every 10 minutes or so, or at open?

6) was there some key tweak that helped the most?

 

If you had on-prem servers and like egnyte, you must be using some kind of caching server as performance from the cloud is way slower than on-prem performance (10x minimum). We found it a little better than VPN speeds, not enough to matter though.

 

I've been managing autocad and bricscad for more than 25 years so have seen how various things affect acad.

The classic thing is some remote drive that is slow can slow all of explorer.

I don't have network paths in my acad support paths, I am strict about that, as remote people get killed by such things.

Its seems like the egnyte drives have some kind of "overhead" handling that is not good.

It seems to get backed up and pauses while catching up. Curious of your experience.

thanks for any feedback.


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Message 10 of 15

gshoopYVL9B
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Explorer

Hi James.  I'll try to answer as many as I can.

 


1) do you use a smartcache server at the office(s)?


No, we do not use SmartCache servers on-site.  There are a few offices that require live databases for Revit shared models or Survey databases, but we have been putting those (and only those) on ACC or on a separate server.  Without a caching server, Egnyte is a check-in / check-out file system.

 


2) did you see deleted files reappear sometimes, usually a few minutes later.

Maybe a couple of times, but it's pretty rare.  Most of the time when I have seen this happen it's due to multiple people attempting to sync the same set of files for offline access with multiple disconnects/reconnects.

 

3) did you get really slow right click menu performance in explorer, for first click every 5 minutes or so?

Not that I have noticed.  I really don't like Windows 11 'new' right-click menu.  I haven't done the registry trick to bring the old one back.  May be worth a look though.

 


4) Do you use the "sync for offline access" much?

No.  I tried setting it up a few times, but ran into issues (as noted in #2).  My biggest failed use case for this was with data shortcuts though.  Our old server had a single common working folder for all C3D data shortcuts.  There were about 3,000 projects under that one single working folder (not my decisions to set it up that way).  This caused massive delays when opening Civil 3D or trying to set that working folder for the first time.  To be clear, it was an issue using local servers too, but was made much worse by Egnyte.  It was this massive common working folder I attempted to set for offline access under the assumption it would stop the delay if the files were saved local.  However, there were so many people accessing that massive set of files constantly, the Egnyte app couldn't keep up.  We have been slowly moving all data shortcuts into the project directories, so each project has its own working folder, and the 'projects' are the phases and sections of that project (how it should have been).

 


5) Do you get long pauses in acad every 10 minutes or so, or at open?

Not anymore.  At open I used to get the long pause mentioned above.  But once a project's data shortcuts were moved into a proper location (and the ShortcutFolders.XML file was deleted from the '%appdata%\Autodesk\C3D 2026\enu\Project Management' folder) there is no more delay at startup.  As for the pause every 10 minutes, that sounds like an autosave issue.  Make sure those are being saved locally, and set ISAVEPERCENT to 0.  I also turned off the creation of .BAK files.  Since Egnyte does file versioning, they aren't really needed.

 


6) was there some key tweak that helped the most?


Some of the things that helped the most (aside from the ones mentioned above) were disabling anything that pings multiple files in rapid-fire.  Such as setting SSMPOLLTIME to 600, SSMSHEETSTATUS to 0, BLOCKMRULIST to 0 (if you use the horrible new insert panel), setting STARTUP and STARTEMODE to 0 (to start to a blank drawing, not the recent tiles).  In your options, set the File Open number to 0 (and Application Menu to 0 if you want to keep the startup screen).  Egnyte also really doesn't like excessive regapps, so keep XREFREGAPPCTL to 1, and keep SAVEFIDELITY to 0 (unless you need to save annotative objects to very old file types).  All these helped a lot, but what really helped the most is keeping an eye out for bad references and links.  ANY bad link will cause ~10-15 second delay with everything.  It can be a bad XREF path, a recent file that's been moved or deleted (that's why I turn all recent items off), or even bad links in the 'places list' (the vertical bar to the left of the open dialog) will cause the open menu to hang.  Bad shortcuts to anywhere network related will cause lots of hangs everywhere.  You feel it a lot in CAD, but it will slow down file browsing anywhere.

 


If you had on-prem servers and like egnyte, you must be using some kind of caching server as performance from the cloud is way slower than on-prem performance (10x minimum). We found it a little better than VPN speeds, not enough to matter though.


No caching servers, and we were using on-prem servers before Egnyte, but they were all syncing to a datacenter, so there was some overhead there.  Maybe our VPN was also just really bad, but Egnyte has been WAY faster working remote (after the tweaks above and moving support files local).  Working in office has been about the same.  Just be sure your office ISP has enough bandwidth.  All that traffic is now external, rather than internal.  If everyone in a large office is trying to open (download) large files at the same time, there will be some bottlenecks on a slower connection.

 


I've been managing autocad and bricscad for more than 25 years so have seen how various things affect acad.

The classic thing is some remote drive that is slow can slow all of explorer.

I don't have network paths in my acad support paths, I am strict about that, as remote people get killed by such things.

Its seems like the egnyte drives have some kind of "overhead" handling that is not good.

It seems to get backed up and pauses while catching up. Curious of your experience.

thanks for any feedback.


Moving CAD support files local also had a huge benefit.  At my company they used to be saved to the network, but we deployed a custom solution for this at the same time we rolled out Egnyte.  From my testing, CAD support files mapped to Egnyte does not work at all.  Egnyte definitely has some overhead, and it's more noticeable on larger files.  When saving a large file in CAD, it should save quickly, and allow you to keep working.  After it's saved in CAD, Egnyte will sync it up to the cloud in the background.  Coworkers won't see the new save until they try to access that file AFTER your upload is finished and synced.  This gives the illusion that other will see your new save quickly, but Egnyte is still working in the background.  The popup in CAD telling you 'someone has modified an XREF' will have a delay to it, but if you manually reload an XREF after the upload is finished, it should sync fine.

 

Overall, I'm happy with Egnyte.  No, it's not perfect, but if you tweak a few settings and know what to look for, it works pretty well.

 

Hope this helps.

 

EDIT: changed VISRETAIN to SAVEFIDELITY in response to #6.

Message 11 of 15

JamesMaeding
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@gshoopYVL9B 

Hey, thanks so much for the feedback. We don't have any of the civil3d issues as we use different software to do alignments, profiles, surfaces and annotation.

We do use SSM on every planset though. BTW, we have found setting field update to open and plot is best, not every regen. Definitely a compromise.

I had not thought of reverting to win 11 normal right click behavior, we immediately did the reg tweak as we have custom tools on the menu (that we disable for testing, they are not the issue).

That moving support stuff local has been an argument for years with cad managers. Maintain a server master and robocopy local on login or manually. That wins the argument and people just do not know robocopy exists.

I'm still not understanding how you are happy with cloud speed for xrefs. On-prem servers is "open any file in 5 secs or less", and cloud is "30 seconds is common".

I have a feeling many people dealt with 30 second openings from civil3d chatter so the dominant speed limiter is that, not file size downloading from the cloud.

thanks again.


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Message 12 of 15

gshoopYVL9B
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No problem.  We are ~80% site-civil design and mostly use Civil 3D.  And you are right, it's not the fastest program.  30 seconds to open a drawing is a bit much though.  A large datacenter campus with all utilities and surfaces fully modeled in 3D may get close to that, but normal residential / commercial site plans (with everything XREF/DREF in) is 5-10 seconds to open on Egnyte.

 

As for the support files, the 'robocopy from a master set on the server at startup' is the exact method we have been using for the past couple years, and it's been working very well.

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bhavani_sankuratri
Autodesk
Autodesk

Hi @gshoopYVL9B 

I wanted to check in and see if you still needed assistance, or if you found a solution to your question already? Let us know if you need further assistance by providing an update or if you have found a solution, please share it with the community so other members who may have the same question could learn from your experience.

All the best,

Bhavani Sankuratri | Community Manager

Bhavani Sankuratri | Community Manager
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gshoopYVL9B
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Hi @bhavani_sankuratri,

Yes, I still need assistance, but I don't think it's anything the community can provide.  My original question was if Egnyte can be a cloud partner like OneDrive, Dropbox, Box, etc...  When saving a file to one of those services, CAD can see the drawing history in Activity Insights.  From what I understand / have been told, this requires action on Autodesk's side.

 

@manieshkumar.suresh provided a product feedback link, which is helpful, but the rest were irrelevant as none of them solve my issue.

  • The first link is to a 3rd party plugin that doesn't do what I want, hasn't been supported since 2022, and the developer's website has been taken down.
  • The second link (to the integrations article) talks about Egnyte in general and connecting it to ACC, not relevant to my issue.
  • The third link looks like the URL was pasted twice, so it's not even clickable.  But when fixing that, it leads to an Egnyte article from 8 years ago about a plugin that's 'coming soon' with a dead link to a non-existent app in the Autodesk app store.

Honestly, I'm a little disappointed those links were even suggested by an Autodesk team member.  They look like the first three generic hits when searching for "Egnyte" and "Autodesk".

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JamesMaeding
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Advisor

I did not find a solution. Egnyte as cloud server for primary system failed. The egnyte team was not able to troubleshoot why the caching server behaved badly, and at random times. We had to shut it down because people were sending out files that were old, a complete disaster for a file managing system.

Instead, we are switching back to on-premises server as primary system. Then the cloud storage is backup for emergency.

This means remote people must vpn in, to access server, which is how we used to do it.

So yah, failed experiment, and not a cheap one.


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