Copy Paste Scale Issue

[jens.cambierXJHLT]

Hi,

I need to use blocks in another Dwg then my library so i tried to copy them.

The units and scale are the same but some blocks are scaled when pasted (whilst others are just fine).

Anyone has an idea what the problem is?

[chriscowgill7373]

Please check the INSUNITS System Variable within the block definition files of the individual blocks

It could also be related to if the blocks are annotative and the current annotation scale being different between drawings

[jens.cambierXJHLT]

The insunits goes from mm to unitless after being pasted, but this happens also to the normal blocks and the unitless is preferenced as mm.

And once in the block editor the annotative specs are off.

[chriscowgill7373]

would it be possible to post your drawings?

[jwhite]

Look into 'insunitsdeftarget' and insunitsdefsource'. They control block insertion when insunits is 0 and are stored in the registry so your system may act differently than a coworker's.

[john.vellek]

Hi @jens.cambierXJHLT,

I used to build "catalogs" of blocks for my staff. In doing so, I would frequently have to adjust the scale of the blocks in the page so that they would present properly.

So, rather than copy and then paste, why don't you drag them in from Design Center or drag them into a Tool Palette?

Let me know if this makes sense and if you need more information on how to do this.

Please select the Accept as Solution button if my post solves your issue or answers your question.

[jens.cambierXJHLT]

Hi,

It's the same issue after i inserted them with a toolpalette.

Note: the problem only occurs in the that designated dwg, so from the library to an other dwg is just fine.

[nichkherbsman]

The solution is -dwgunits, make sure that the last option "Scale objects from other drawings upon insert?" is set to "No".

[john.vellek]

Hi @jens.cambierXJHLT

I am checking back to see if my post or others helped you with your problem. Please add a post with how you decide to proceed and your results so other Community members may benefit.

Please hit the Accept as Solution button if a post or posts solves your issue or answers your question.

[jens.cambierXJHLT · Accepted solution]

No, the problem still occurs but made a copy to new dwg where it seems to work.

[jens.cambierXJHLT · Accepted solution]

Found the problem, the blocks that didn't copy were already in the dwg (same name) but with an older revision (did not have MV actions).

So what i did was renamed the old block , insert the new one and replace block.

Anyone has similar or faster ideas?

[chriscowgill7373]

If you need to update an old version of the block, you can use the design center to redefine the block definition.  alternativley if you have all the new blocks as separate files, you can redefine the blocks with a lisp routine:

(setq imagelocation "Z:\\Images\\")
(command "-insert"
	       (strcat "ANT=" imagelocation "ANT.dwg")
	       *cancel*
      ) ;_ end of command

and you would just replace the ANT with the block name and ANT.dwg with the drawing file that contains the new block definition.  these insert lines can be chained if necessary to do as many as you want at the same time, just by repeating the command and updating for the new block names.  The program I grabbed this from was used about 10 years ago when we updated our block library to be annotative  it redefined about 2 dozen blocks.

[Anonymous]

Similar issue but not block related. When I paste a line from a drawing in model space and paste into another drawing in paperspace, it doesn't 'stick' to the scale paste values I give it. The 'preview' on cursor it shows before clicking to set insertion appears correct but once I click done, it goes back to a certain size, regardless of the scale paste values. Why won't it obey my paste scales?

[jens.cambierXJHLT]

Looks like you're not in your viewport but in the lay out.

double click in the viewport first