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AutoCAD will not show letters and fonts correctly

helga_skramstad
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AutoCAD will not show letters and fonts correctly

helga_skramstad
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I have the fonts installed but the Norwegian letters are not showing correctly. The folder with the correct fonts are added in the Support File Search Path. Also some of the text are not showing with the correct width, so it goes outside the boxes. Any system variable I have missed?  Any suggestion is welcome.

 

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cadffm
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Hi,

in a copy of your file, delete all except one sample.

Save. Start ETRANSMIT, use the standard setting to create a *.ZIP file, upload&share your dat.

This way we can take a look and perhaps we can fix this.

Sebastian

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helga_skramstad
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Here I'm attaching my file. The font name iso3098 is not showing the letters correctly. This is also used in external references that I cannot change.

I have pasted 2 examples. With the letter missing and text not being inside the box.

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cadffm
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Hi,

 

my mistake, i forgot that "fonts" are excluded in the standard setting.

Please etransmit again with your own transmittal setting, turn "incl. Fonts" on.

https://help.autodesk.com/view/ACD/2022/ENU/?guid=GUID-9A2F96E5-34D1-4504-A5F3-54BCD410041D

 

OR

 

Zip your iso3098.shx font and attach this file.

You can find this file by using this command in AutoCAD - please copy&paste it incl. the brackets.

(findfile "iso3098.shx")

Sebastian

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helga_skramstad
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Attaching both files.

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cadffm
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1. I don't know why your iso3098.shx are not used (same with another iso3098B.shx that i tried)

2. AutoCAD uses the FONTALT, which is for missing fonts

 

3. We should ask @BeKirra 

  

Hi BeKirra,

is THIS font (file attached above) the same like yours?

is it working on your side?

is your iso3098.shx working?

Do you know what the problem is (i can reproduce it on my side too)?

 

Sebastian

pendean
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@cadffm @helga_skramstad The posted SHX file is empty or not a true SHX font file when I use the old SHX Viewer to look inside.

dbroad
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I downloaded your font file.  It only has about 129 characters, a typical ASCII selection. I would imagine that you need a bigfont file.  Another thing is that your iso3098 font isn't what you originally selected in your first post.  I am attaching the converted shp file for your inspection.

 

In short, I think you'll need to find a bigfont file, check the big font option on the style box, or better yet, use TTF fonts.

Architect, Registered NC, VA, SC, & GA.

helga_skramstad
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Thank you for your help.

 

I have tried to use the bigfont called Bigfont.shx. The letter changes but is not correct still. It shall be Ø. I cannot change this in every drawing. Is it a universal setting somewhere?

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I'm attaching the two fonts that are used in most of the drawings. ISO3098 and ISO3098b. Can it be a setting where this font is changed with something else?

 

The other people at my work doesn't have a problem. The problem appears when we install Autocad on a new computer, or in my case when I was looking at the settings to find a solution for my colleague. When I tried the newly installed program in another computer, the font were ok until I put in the CTB-file in the Plot styles folder.

 

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cadffm
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Hi Helga,

 

The solution is in your hands!

In your last Post#9 you attached "iso3098.shx" again..BUT ANOTHER VERSION!

This file is not from 1988, it is from 201 and defined with another content.

 

Use this file and it will work!

Sebastian

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cadffm
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iso3098.png

Sebastian

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helga_skramstad
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Hi

 

I hope we are nearing the solution, but it is not working in my computer yet. I have put the correct version of the file in the Fonts folder. I also have an additional path pointing to the server containing this file.

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Any way I can see how Autocad is finding/not finding this file?

 

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dbroad
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I'm not an expert on fonts because my work doesn't require big fonts.  I have looked at both the font files you attached and converted them to readable form. As you might see in the attached image, the ISO3098.shx is an incomplete ASCII font file.  The ISO3098B.shx is a complete ASCII font file.  If you only need a diagonal dash through the 0, then that font could be modified easily using the developers guide instructions.  I imagine though, that Norwegian has many unique characters that are only accessible with Unicode, not ASCII code.  Those letters must come from a big font file, not necessarily bigfont.shx.

Look at the support files locations for AutoCAD stations that work well.  You can't just look at the standard font folders included with AutoCAD. You must look at a drawing that works, look in the styles command, copy the names of the regular and big font files and do a search, in AutoCAD using something like (findfile "iso3098B.shx").

The example above, assumes that the iso3098B.shx is used in the style that appears correct.  That will tell you which folder to copy from to make the new stations work correctly.  IMO, each office should have a folder named fonts, somewhere that is not locked down by AutoCAD where you can add and manage fonts.  This folder should be added to the support folders in AutoCAD.  You must find the big font that has the appearance you are looking for and add that to your new installation's support file paths.

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cadffm
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It's not a good practice to have "the same" supportfiles in multiple supportfolders, but okay - i would be avoid it.

 

First: Close ACAD, open your file and check the issue again. Still wrong?

 

1. Check double that in both are the 2001 file!

2. Open your file and  tell us what ACAD says to Command: (findfile "iso3098.shx")

3. Is it one of your both pathes? and it is really the 2001 file?

 

 

Sebastian

cadffm
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The file from 2001

 

shx viewer 1 1.JPG

Sebastian

helga_skramstad
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You are my hero Sebastian! 🤓

 

With the findfile command I located the folder:

\AppData\\Roaming\\Autodesk\\AutoCAD 2020\\R23.1\\enu\\support\\iso3098.shx

 

AutoCAD was looking in support and not fonts, imagine! So when I overwrote the file from 2001 in the support folder it was working!

 

😁

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dbroad
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I agree with @cadffm .  I wasn't using a SHX viewer. I was using my keyboard and not entering the alt key sequences for Norwegian.  ISO3098.SHX is missing quite a few ASCII symbols like the @ and $ and # signs but has the Norwegian characters.  ISO3098B.SHX has all the ASCII symbols but no Norwegian characters.  You could combine the two for best results into a single file.

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cadffm
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Good.

 

>>"AutoCAD was looking in support and not fonts, imagine! "

That's normal, AutoCAD is searching for the most stuff in all support and "current" folders,

that's why it is important what is inside the folder - how much files? Much files = long search => poor performance

Folders in a network? Slow Network = long search => poor performance

Also the order of your supportpathes, because AutoCAD stop searching if the item found

and ACAD is searching from top to down the supportpathes.

Not for all stuff, but for some.

And in some case, AutoCAD also looking in folders which are the target of links which placed in a supportfolder.

 

 

Sebastian

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