AutoCAD 2014 Classic workspace = GONE?

[Anonymous]

Is the rumour true, that the Classic Workspace is to be discontinued?? I hope not! I teach AutoCAD, and students, when they first start,  appreciate the simple layout. Please reassure me....

Best wishes - John

[Anonymous]

I had been getting by with the Plant 3d 2013 but then upgraded to 2014 and I cant use the **** product. I am going to install my old crack 2007 acad because I can at least get something done with it. I updated the ACAD is because my old laptop took a dump. So I got a laptop with a 4k ultra high resolution display - the higher display for drafting. Come to find out that ACAD can't handle it.

The fonts run over because the nerds can't figure out pixels, so you cant even figure out what youre clicking on. I have to go to a lower resolution. What total BS We spent a bunch of money (ripped) with Autodesk only to see our productivity get consumed with learning new toolbars and other "features" that some dip programmer thought I needed to have. I've just spent a good 2 hours trying to friggen draw a **** cylinder, hollowed out and stick another cylinder offset on the end. With the loss of the acadclasic toolbar, I don't know where anything is and Autodesk decided I didnt need to have the clasic toolbar.  Good bye Autodesk! With a company like this, who needs enemies.

[pendean]

Should have done your research before buying the 4k display: it's not a secret it's not currently supported. Tsk! Tsk! 🙂

[Anonymous]

So right, tsk tsk!  Yes I should had suspected that while Autodesk was busy creating bloatware, ballooning autocad from less than 1 gigabyte in 2007 to now more than 20gigabytes that they would only program graphics for a 1080p.  So I went back to Acad 2007 under xp mode.  Guess what, it works fine in 32 bit acad 2007 in 4k resolution and its also lightning quick compared with the bloatware 64 bit 2015.  De-evolution? 

[pendean]

AutoCAD 2007 is much smaller and 2- 3 DWG-versions back (less complicated file coding): of course it runs faster on today's much faster than the year 2006 PCs.
That's no secret either, applies to almost all software since the dawn of coding.

I'm sure your 2014-2015 will be lighting fast on a PC/OS in the year 2020.

[fanderson]

I teach CAD to high school and college age students. I try to prepare them for all situations as best I can. Not all firms or colleges have updated to the ribbon so I begin with classic and then change to the ribbon. After they have gotten used to the 2014 ribbon I start them on 2015 because that interface is a little different also.

I have found that the students adapt to whatever UI you throw at them.

In doing this I think I am preparing them for any release since 2000, plus helping them understand that they can adapt to whatever comes along.

[pendean]

Fantastic! Kudos!

[Anonymous]

classic work space gone in 2015, sorry. I liked it as well...see attached from lynn allen article

[fanderson]

Classic can be added to 2015. You basically copy the classic file from 2014 and paste it in 2015.

Frank Anderson
LISD CAD Instructor
Byron Martin Advanced Technology Center

[Anonymous]

Better process would be to just use the ribbon, give up on the classic interface.

If you still want toolbars, the best way is to manually turn on the toolbars with the "-toolbar" command.

The less copying from older versions to the newer ones, the better you'll be.

[Anonymous]

After spending a considerable amount of time, I finally got the UI where I need it to do a drawing.  I got a big 4k monitor with a 1080p second monitor for the ACAD text so I can kick out a drawing within a reasonable amount of time.  Given the minimal value in upgrades and/or software revisions I intend to stick with 2015 until there's a compelling reason to switch to something newer.  Autodesk and the platform Microsoft seems to be following the path of dinasaurs.  Autocad is bloated beyond repair, subsequent upgrades surely to be even bigger and slower.  Meanwhile we have to kick out drawings. 

Remembering my  old man and how he could kick out a sheet metal drawing by hand within an afternoon.  A tee square, french curveand and knowhow being replaced by bloated software that requires huge amount of time to know how to use the program.

[dgorsman]

Nothing to do with bloat if running this years software on 4 year old hardware, no different than running a next-gen game on a boat anchor from several years ago.  Everything works together, software and hardware, so failure to maintain one part just creates a choke point.

[tbennett]

Not sure you have it exactly right.  That "knowhow" your dad had to use a t-square and french curve is exactly the same as the knowhow to use AutoCAD proficiently.  It is acquired the same way.

[pendean]

Your old man took care of his pencils and pens, replace damaged ones, always sharpened the lead in the pencils, cleaned out the tips of ink pens with a bulb cleaner, replaced kinked French curves, and probably jumped at the upgrade that was the table-strapped "t-square", dreamt about upgrading to the one with the adjustable angle edge, and was first in line to buy an electric eraser.

Many of us around here lived those days: you looking from the outside probably never noticed those upgrade items we all sought.

[Anonymous]

When they upgraded the T-Square I was using in college to a new and improved one, I complained that there was no 'classic' t-square option.

[RAFUSE]

I started drafting in high school - T square (furnished by the school), triangles, etc.  My BIG purchase ($$ too) was a big D drafting set.  Still have it.  Have most of my tools, which is what they were - tools of the trade.

Back then we had to think ahead and compose what we were going to put on each drawing.  You really didn't want to erase much.  Remember the Aims (sp) lettering guide?  One of my clients broke down and bought a mechanical lettering machine for government jobs that required drawings be in ink. 

CAD is great, but it's nice to see a drawing done by an old timer, it's clean, readable, accurate, etc.  The old textile drawings of textile machines were and still are works of art.  Wish I had one.

With that said, I HATE the ribbon.  I still work a tablet/mouse in my right hand and type in 1 and 2 letter commands with my left hand - can't get much faster that that!  Yeah, I've been aroung a long time.

RC

[pendean]

Move to the MAC: no Ribbon there anywhere an pretty sweet (unlike in Windows, where it is everywhere on about every program and only getting more prolific as Microsoft insists ALL software vendors convert).