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how to enable noun verb selection

how to enable noun verb selection

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how to enable noun verb selection

ernie-pook
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Installed AutoCAD LT for Mac 2026 on a new computer.
Can't figure out how to enable noun verb selection.


PICKADD is set to 2 and PICKFIRST to 1.

On older versions [Windows?] there used to be a radio button in PREFERENCES on the selection tab, Noun Verb Selection.  Not seen now [see attached].

I closed the program and restarted the computer in case that might help the above settings to "take".
Another post I saw here suggested updating the software.
I tried Check for Updates under AutoCAD LT 2026 in the menu top bar and that led nowhere, didn't bring up a dialog or anything.

I looked on the Autodesk site and saw some updates for AutoCAD LT 2026 64-bit -- don't think that is for Mac.  Didn't see any on the list with "Mac" in the name.

It is product version W.60.M.211.
Maybe no updates are available yet?

 

I also have a Mac Book Pro laptop running AutoCAD LT for Mac 2025.  Noun verb selection does work there.  I recall that I had to fix it upon installation [migrated from 2022 version] but can't remember what I did or find any notes I may have made at the time.  After the fix it has never quit working.  PICKADD, PICKFIRST and the PREFERENCES selection tab are the same as above.  It is product version V.58.M.244.


A bit perplexing!  
A "got to have it" setting!

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An update.  I was determined to get past this bugaboo.

Sometimes when something is going wrong I get obsessed about it until I can fix it.
Drilling down into some help files, some not specific to this LT/Mac version -- one suggestion I found, if noun verb selection really can't be invoked, it is possible that the file is corrupted.  And you can try selecting all of the objects and pasting them into a new file.
And that worked!!

I don't know how or why the file became corrupted [if it did].  There were no other signs anything was wrong.
It is one that has been around awhile and was started on Windows AutoCAD LT three years ago or more.

 

Still interested if anybody has any related insights.

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In my reply to the original post I found a workaround.  And in six months, the problem didn't crop up again.  Now it has, and the workaround does not work this time.  I installed software updates.  I uninstalled and reinstalled AutoCAD LT 2026 for Mac.  I confirmed that PICKFIRST=1 and PICKADD=2.
In another post on the same topic, a reply to the OP suggested enabling a system variable monitor that would allow tracking exactly when the variables changed, in order to debug and reset.  And further, that said monitor was not available in the LT versions.  And admonished the OP for being a cheapskate and failing to upgrade to the full version. 
Well -- I know exactly when the variables were reset.  When I opened an AutoCAD file provided by a Civil Engineer and ran a Save As on it, rather than copying the vectors I needed to the clipboard and pasting them into a new file.  Since I only find occasion to open consultants' files rarely, I had forgotten I needed to approach it that way.
Something else is happening here, since at no time that I saw were PICKFIRST or PICKADD set to anything other than 1 and 2, respectively.

I'm eternally grateful to Autodesk for continuing to make LT affordable.  I am working on small residential projects.  Annual income well into five figures.  The right tool for the job -- I'm not trying to share my files with a team of people -- Im not an architect working on a mid-rise tower, or the airport, a stadium or hospital.  I don't need the full-blown AutoCAD, much less Revit.  I pass the savings along to homeowner clients.

AutoCAD user since 1986 and I can't deal with noun-verb selection being unavailable.  Or selections always having to be a two-step process with a shift key or something, after 39 years of one way of doing it.  I'm certain it's not Autodesk's position on the matter, that I can upgrade to the full version, or, tough luck.  
Right?

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Reading through other forum posts and wording the question differently to teh Google -- I've now discovered the TRIMEXTENDMODE variable, which when reset to zero [had been 1] invokes the desired behavior/setting, at least in the TRIM command.

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