Terminals with different wire numbers

[Anonymous]

Morning all,

I'm having a bit of a fight with terminals and wire numbers.

I have the same terminal shown on two different drawings. Two wires which should be numbered the same are terminated into the same terminal. Yet AutoCAD numbers the wires differently.

I can manually fix the wire numbers, but this doesn't solve the root problem. Any pointers as to what might be wrong here?

[rhesusminus · Accepted solution]

You can't just insert the same terminal twice...
Did you associate them like a "multilevel terminal", and jumper the "levels"?

As AcadE sees them right now, they're two separate terminals.

[Anonymous]

Thanks for the reply. I'm relatively new to ACDE so this might be obvious to those who've been using it a while.

I'll try and describe what I'm trying to do - maybe I'm doing this the wrong way.

I have two subsystems in the same panel that share a +24VDC connection. I have each subsystem on separate drawings, thus the +24VDC terminal shows up twice. This isn't a multilevel terminal, it's a normal terminal with two wires connected to it.

If ACDE can't handle showing the same terminal twice then how should I be drawing this?

[rhesusminus]

Well.. There are several ways to do this.

The easiest would be to draw the terminal one place, connect a wire to it, and use source/destination arrows to send it to the other page.
For one customer, I created custom destination "arrows" that looks like a terminal. It looked quite well.

You also have the ability to associate terminals in AcadE. Mostly used for multi-level terminals, but you CAN use it for "internal/external" side of the terminal as well, instead of "top/bottom" level.

I guess there are other ways to do this as well...

[ramesh.kambang]

 As  rhesusminus mentioned, there are several ways but it needs custom symbol rebuilding skills. If you are new to acade, I suggest to use source to destination arrow method till you learn more about terminal / multilevel / jumper or terminal links etc. This is the easiest and quickest way of doing job done.  

[Anonymous]

Thanks all for your replies.

I haven't fully resolved this, but will use source/destination arrows for now. I will mark as resolved.

[ramesh.kambang]

The main advantage of using Source / Destination method is you don't need to create an additional pictorial views or terminal charts for clarity, e.g. if you have multi-level or internally linked terminals you have to create a chart to show how the terminals are internally lined /jumpered or multi-level etc.