Stretching connectors, pins, and wires at the same time

brent_e_barbour
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Stretching connectors, pins, and wires at the same time

brent_e_barbour
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This may seem like a basic question for some of you AutoCAD Electrical users, but I'm an Inventor user and very seldom use AutoCAD Electrical.  Anyway, I have some really long 128 pin connectors.  Several pins in the center are not being used, so I'd like to shorten my connector showing only the pins that are used.  I deleted the unused pins in the center.  I attempter to stretch my connecter inward.  However, the wires, nor the connector pins stretch with it.  I also attempted to move the connector pins.  However, the wires don't move with it.  There must be an easier way to do this.  If it matters, my process for creating my schematic is as follows...

 

  1. Inventor: Generate EMX file from Inventor assembly with connectors.
  2. AutoCAD Electrical: Link to EMX file in AutoCAD Electrical.
  3. AutoCAD Electrical: Insert Connectors (From List) in the Location View browser.
  4. AutoCAD Electrical: Manually wire the connector pins in AutoCAD Electrical.

...and now I'm trying to figure out how to edit the connectors and wires so everything fits in the window.

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rhesusminus
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You are doing everything right.

The commands you use for the connector, like "stretch connector" will only work for the connector, and not for the wires connected to it.

This is just the way it is.


Trond Hasse Lie
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I think that for this, you actually did too much too soon. You should have gotten the symbol placement where it needed to be, before drawing in your wires. As Trond noted, symbol stretching won't affect anything beyond the symbol. I think you're going to have to just get everything adjusted so it fits, then redraw or reconnect the wires. Sorry but there's not going to be a faster way here.

 

As for your huge connector: don't forget that you can split a connector. Maybe a good solution for you will come in the form of eight pieces of that connector, displayed 16 pins at a time. They can all be on the same sheet, or different sheets. Note that sending split children to another sheet can be tricky and would involve a specific workflow.

 

Also, depending on your application, you may be able to get away with not showing the unused pins. In that case, use the 'Delete Connector Pins' command to remove the unwanted pins, followed by stretching the connector, if needed, to get the spacing right.

 

It's important that any edits to the connector itself are made ONLY with ACADE commands. This is to ensure that the underlying data in the project database correctly keeps track of the connector.

 

Once your connector is situated on the sheet and you think it's good to go, draw wires and make connections. After the circuit is completely drawn, whole sections of it can be tweaked with the vanilla STRETCH command. Just follow the basic rules for stretching: enclose all objects that you want to adjust and deselect the ones that are ok. The most important consideration there is, DO NOT make any stretches that would affect a connector's tag. Doing that with a vanilla command, instead of an ACADE command, prevents data from being written to the project database.

 

Hope this helps,



Jim Seefeldt
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brent_e_barbour
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Thank you Trond and Jim!

However, I'm a little disappointed in Autodesk on the solution.  AutoCAD Electrical has been around for 2 decades and it doesn't seem like it's changed much.  AutoCAD Electrical still seems like a temporary after thought for electrical design.  It seems like you have to have everything predesigned in your head before you draw anything in AutoCAD Electrical because there aren't many tools to manipulate it or even develop the design once it's all laid out.  There's very limited modify tools and if you decide to stretch a connector or move a pin, you'll need to delete the wire and rewire it.

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Well, to be fair, the editing tools for connectors are limited, but elsewhere in the software it's not too bad. However, one thing that's consistent is moving symbols with the wires still attached almost always requires us to redraw the wires. If you wait to draw those last, editing a schematic is much easier.

 

You're definitely on point regarding this software's development, it's not progressed very much and it lags further behind the competition every day. Which is a shame, I like using ACAD verticals because I already know vanilla ACAD. But, it's become apparent that the time is fast approaching when we'll have to decide if we want to stay with it.



Jim Seefeldt
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Poll on LinkedIn that closed a couple of days ago:

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Poll on LinkedIn from a month ago:

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This should be taken seriously by the developers of AcadE.


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