Installation and Location Codes

[Anonymous]

We have been working on a new way that we break up our projects from sales/applications to Engineering. It has a main phase and sub phases. 

For example:

Phase: 915-700 [Conveyor Infeed Line]

Sub phase: 915-701, 702, 703 [Each individual conveyor]

Phase 945-700 [Electrical Interconnect]

This can be for interconnecting cables and used for general related items.

Phase: 946-700 [Electrical Enclosures]

Sub phases: 900-301 might be the Main Enclosure 

We don't currently use the IEC setup. Can I utilize Location and Installation codes using JIC/NFPA setup?

How would I apply the location and installation codes?

Right now if we have a 3-pole fuse, drive, and motor it would be FU-204, DR-204, and MOT-204. This keeps everything 204, but it eventually becomes difficult to scale this for larger systems. 

The trouble I see is that we utilize phases and sub phases for quoting, ordering, and now attempt to use them in our mechanical and electrical prints. 

Is the installation the equipment you're controlling? Then the location would be where the component is physically located?

So in this example it's FU204, DR204, MOT204. Then 915 is the conveyor infeed line, 946 would be the electrical enclosure for the location, and 945 would be our interconnect location (basically meaning outside of the electrical enclosure in the system). 

=915+946-DR204

=915+???-MOT204

If 915 is my infeed line then would I use the 701, 702, and 703 for my various conveyor codes? Conveyor 1 (701, Conveyor 2 (702), etc. 

Does this make sense in how it would follow along to utilize the phase and installation codes?

What examples/material is out there to better understand these?

Any tips on how to properly implement these into AutoCAD Electrical? I know I've read that some say they didn't implement Installation and Location codes correct?

[dougmcalexander]

You can.  Right-click on the project in the Project Manager.  Go to Properties.  Click on the Components tab.  Click the radio button for Combined Installation/Location tag mode.  The software will want to perform a project-wide update.  As you start inserting and editing components, you will see different Insert/Edit dialogs, showing the Installation, Location, and Tag at the upper left, in order of hierarchy.  Operating in this mode will prevent component duplication error alerts, such as the case where two devices have the same tag, but are located in different physical locations, or even different logical locations.  I teach all of my students to use Combined Installation/Location tag mode, whether designing to DIN/IEC standards or to North American NFPA standards.  JIC is outdated, so I don't recommend it all.

Note: Avoid using the IEEE symbols for industrial control panels.  IEEE is mainly for circuit board design.  It is regrettable that Autodesk includes the IEEE library in the software.  Using it can lead to confusion as DS is a display, not a disconnect switch, and CR is a diode, not a control relay.  But the IEEE library that accompanies the software wasn't even made correctly. 

The exercises in my admin+workflow training class make full use of Installation/Location codes.  Reports can be filtered using the codes.  A wire list can be filtered to include only the wires within a particular enclosure, or only the wires between enclosures, and even between the enclosures and the field devices, all by making proper use of the Installation/Location Code concept.