In-Line with Wire Number Not Resizing Gap

[bparksElmElec]

Hi,

So I really like the Fan In/Out inline with wire number looks but I don't always need this because I don't have a destination, so I wanted to use the In-Line Wire Labels. But there are none that have the wire color in-line and wire number above it like the Fan In/Out has. So I found the HT0_LGENERIC dwg and added the attribute WIRENO above COLOR attribute. The problem is now the line doesn't resize around the COLOR attribute that is  in-line and I don't understand why. If I delete the WIRENO attribute then it works again. It runs a command WD_INLINLAB_OEM and apparently this doesn't do the resize if it sees more than one attribute in the symbol. Any ideas on how to fix this or a different way to get this working?Inline Resize Problem

***UPDATE: I realized with testing that it auto adjusts the gap to the WIRENO attribute, which I don't want I want it to adjust to the COLOR attribute. I changed the wire number to F140.234 and the gap grew. So now the question is how to I change it to resize around the COLOR attribute and not WIRENO...

[jseefdrumr]

Open up the block file. Look for the attributes named X?_TINY_DOT_DONT_REMOVE. Literally, that's its actual name. There will be an X1 version and an X4 version for a horizontal symbol. I'm wondering what's up with those, because that's what controls the wire connection in this kind of symbol (inline wire annotations).

It's maybe the weirdest attribute in ACADE: It HAS to be present in the symbol for it to work, and it HAS to carry a period as its value. As in "." .....If the period isn't there, or if the attribute is removed, then the in-line symbol won't work.

[ramesh.kambang]

Which option did you select (above wire, in-line or below wire) in the drawing properties>wire numbers? is it in-line selected?

Try this option as well:

1. open the original ht0_lgeneric file
2. open wd_whn and select all then copy with basepoint.
3. past (to original coordinates) them to the ht0_lgeneric file 
4. save and try it, see how it goes.

[bparksElmElec]

These attributes "TINY DOT" gets added when inserted. They actually do not exist int he block dwg/symbol. For some reason if I add the WIRENO attribute even after I insert and everything looks good then do a addattribute command it will auto resize to the wire number length not the color attribute that it originally adjusts to.

Also I have below wire in my project selected. No matter what I copy from where it will always adjust to the wire number if it is present. I don't know how it works for Fan In Source/Destination but appearently this WD_INLINLAB_OEM command has something in it that references wire number if it is there.

[jseefdrumr]

"Tiny Dot" does NOT get added to a symbol automatically. It has to be present in the block before insertion. That's why the complete name of that attribute is "TINY DOT DONT REMOVE" ... If you remove it from a symbol, it breaks the symbol. And it is this attribute, and this attribute alone, that controls where a wire ends for the purposes of annotation.

[bparksElmElec]

The TINY DOT DONT REMOVE is there and like I said it does break the line and sizes it around the attribute COLOR. BUT if I add the attribute WIRENO then it will size around WIRENO not COLOR, even though I put the WIRENO attribute above the COLOR attribute. The COLOR attribute is inline with the TINY DOT DONT REMOVE attributes. So if my wire number is 1010.2 and my COLOR attribute is ORG/BLK/BRN then the line will be going through the ORG and BRN because the location of the TINY DOT DO NOT REMOVE attributes will move from outside ORG and BRN to outside 1010.2 which brings the line in and through the ORG and BRN text. I want to keep the placement of the TINY DOT DONT REMOVE attributes outside the COLOR attribute.

[jseefdrumr]

This is definitely weird. Can you post the block you made that is giving you problems?

[bparksElmElec]

The attached block was orgininally the ht0_lgeneric.dwg block. I modified the "You Type" selection from the Icon Menu in the NFPA: In-Line Wire Labels, my new selection is called "Wire Number and Color" and the selection from the Icon Menu runs this Command to Execute - Command: wd_inlinlab_oem "HT0_WLGENERIC".  The orginal "You Type" runs wd_inlinlab_oem "HT0_LGENERIC", where it asks you for an insertion point then prompts you to type in the value for the COLOR attribute. The "TINY DOTS" size around the COLOR attribute but if I run my command the "TINY DOTS" size around the WIRENO attribute.