floating wire nos

[Anonymous]

i posted this a few weeks back but didnt get the issue resolved so i was hoping someone could maybe shed some light on this for me?

I am having an issue with certain projects occasionally with floating wire numbers.

everything will seem to be in order and then if i run 'update signal references' it will cause some wires (not all) with a destination arrow on to have the wire number float away from the wire.

there are usually 3 points on a wire number, centre, left, and connection to wire. the connection to wire is still on the wire but the number has moved.

it seems to be directly related to the update signal reference command.

i can easily fix each one by toggling between inline wire no and back on each individual wire number that is affected but this can be quite time consuming when the project is large and will need repeating if another signal reference update is required.

i have tried DWG audit as mentioned in another forum relating to floating wire numbers but this doesnt do anything.

does anyone know what is causing this?

or a way of fixing it across a whole project?

ideally i would like to find the cause and fix it but if not id like to be able to fix he whole project easily.

Thanks again!

[PatMurnen_Adsk]

The wire number is a block with a WIRENO attribute. The insertion point of the block must lie on the wire it is associated to. If it does not this is what AutoCAD Electrical refers to as a floating wire number and tries to fix in the Drawing Audit. This doesn't sound like what you have based on your description. It sounds like the WIRENO attribute is being adjusted for some reason. AutoCAD Electrical does try to adjust the attribute location if it appears to fall on top of some drawing graphics. The graphics can even be on a non-visible layer. 

Other than adjusting the attribute due to other graphics I don't really have a good guess without actually having the .dwg to investigate it. If you can email it to me at pat.murnen@autodesk.com I can take a look. Make sure to tell me what version of AutoCAD Electrical you are using and what wire number to look at. Once I know what is causing it maybe I will have some suggestion for updating project-wide.

Regards,

Pat Murnen

[PatMurnen_Adsk]

Joe,

per our separate emails it appears that some of the wire number attributes are being adjusted so they don't fall on the wire. The reason only some of them are adjusted is because the text font being used for the WD_IEC text style has characters, such as "\" that fall below the line of other text, making the text boundary larger. So the wire number attribute is moved so that character falling below the line of other characters doesn't hit the wire. This can be resolved by using a text font that keeps all characters in line. A small script like the attached can be used with the Project-Wide Utilities command to go through a project set and change the text font assigned to a text style. The Modify Symbol Library can be used to quickly go through the symbol library and update the WD or WD_IEC style to a specified text font. Of course, first make backups of any files you run any of this on.

Hope this helps,

Pat Murnen