How do you add dynamic content to an electrical block?
When you design an electrical symbol, it is not blocked (it is just lines, shapes, text etc) and as far as I can see you cannot add dynamic content to a non-blocked symbol.
If you add a dynamic block to a symbol, when you insert it into a drawing ACADE automatically blocks it for you so essentially you have a dynamic block within a block which doesn't work.
Is it possible to do this?
Thanks
Thanks ccad.
I think I have a work around after playing around with it a bit but want to be sure before going any further.
Have you tried "Stretch PLC", this allows you to stretch symbols as well as PLC's.This reduces the number of symbols you need to create.
Also "Split PLC Module" works on symbols. I find both commands very useful.
Not a bad idea leeb but
Dynamic blocks have been in plain Autocad since 2007?
Yet this fantastically powerful and configurable feature has not been implemented into ACADE
Think of a symbol
You could have a single symbol that has a dynamic parameters so that all four rotational views of a symbol could be selected from a pull down menu
You could even have another pull down menu in the same symbol to define whether the connection points were screw terminals or plug/socket connections
That would reduce the amount of symbols used in your libary by a factor of 4x2=8
You could add other features you could have a proximity switch which could be inductive/infrared/capacitive\ultrasonic etc reducing the amount of symbols required
You could easily change the symbol by using the pull down menu to change from one type to another
You could add dip switches to devices and show the settings via the visibility function in dynamic blocks
You could have you plc card pre set so you could inset 1,2,4,8 sets of i/o channels depending on the block set up
You could have mechanical layouts where you could show a breaker with a side mounted auxiliary as an option
The uses for dynamic blocks is endless and would fundamentally improve ACADE by a very large margin
It would even improve Acade to the point where the oposition will stop laughing at how bad it is and take notice
So the big question is why they haven’t implemented dynamic blocks?
My theory is they can’t it will mean a fundamental re-write of the base code which is not what they are prepared to do
if you want an idea badly implemented look no further than ACADE then look how the opposition solves the same problem
Hi ccad2509
I do understand how dynamic blocks work. It’s not clear from the original post what the poster was exactly trying to achieve. I just was offering a possible solution with the tools that are available rather than complaining about the tools that are not.
A lot of which you describe can be achieved with the "catalog browser" by assigning a selection of symbols to part number. Not as good as “configurable symbols” but a solution none the less.
I agree that dynamic blocks would be useful but this could take years to be included Autodesk. We need solutions to our problems asap, that’s the point of posting in this forum. If you believe that the opposition are delivering a better solution why not use their software exclusively and not bother using ACADE and posting in this forum?
The point of dynamic blocks has been well documented previously.
Hello Leeb
The reason why i moan about Autodesk because constantly they get their asses kicked in the real world
I personally paid for my acade licence I don’t sit in some company using the companies’ software so I feel since I paid for it I can moan about it
I have tried being nice over the years that got me nowhere
I tried being nasty and that achieved the same
So my current game plan is to constantly compare acade to the other cad programmes point out how easy it is in the other cad programmes or point out how many years’ that feature existed in other cad programmes to embarrass all those that think acade is leading the way in electrical design technology it’s not
That aside
i want a better product and Autodesk at present is trying its dammed hardest to screw it all up
Incremental improvements on code that’s riddled with errors which have existed for a number of years
Would you be satisfied with owning a car which constantly breaks down in the same fashion even though you have changed the car several times over the years?
There seems to be a total acceptance that Autodesk doesn’t have the resources or manpower to address these issues 2 billion dollars profit last year is obviously not enough money to employ a couple dozen programmers to sort out some of these issues
Yes I do use those other products on a regular basis the interesting thing now is that less and less people want acade professionals here I constantly get contacted regarding my other cad skills not acade
So let’s get to the big deal that had everybody jumping up and down with glee for the 2015 launch
Dwg to intelligent PDF conversion how long did it take before the realised it didn’t work properly was it a week?
Phoenix contact interface interesting enough only a one way trip to the phoenix contact clip project whereas on my other electrical cad program you can export out modify in clipproject then import all the data back in doesn’t seem fair that we only get half the application usage
Both were implemented in Eplan 10 years ago
But don’t forget in 2015 we got a nice shinny apple like interface (never mind nothing has changed under the hood)
Now if you think that’s fun then troll through this user group compile a list of known bugs that have existed for years and when 2016 hits your desk see which ones have been addressed !!!!! (my list of bugs is at approx 100 pages )
what new features are in 2016 and how long have they existed in the competitors software?
Hello ccad2509
For the record I too have my own licence.......
We all have our frustrations with the software, I just don't think hijacking a thread to vent your personal anger will achieved anything.
Take it up with your reseller, Autodesk, post on Idea Station...
By the way regarding your car anaolgy, if I had a car that broke down all the time and I was really unhappy with it, I would not buy the next new model every year and complain about it when it had the same problems. Especially if I had another car in the garage that worked perfectly.
Makes no sense...
Hello Leeb
Take it up with my reseller!!!!!!! Just got off the floor with that one what is my reseller stock answer "not our problem take it up with Autodesk"
Now take it up with Autodesk well if you talk to them directly you get the guarded stock answers phrases that make you want to throw things at the screen
"We endeavour to make the product better"
"We are aware we need to improve things"
"We are looking at that issue"
Tried posting on ideas station posted about 50 ideas with little or no response from Autodesk lots of kudos on them from other users so I deleted them out as a waste of time
So to continue the car analogy
Your happy the car own doesn’t work and hasn’t for a number of years but each year you have to pay for an upgrade to your car knowing full well
It will never work properly and the supplier hasn’t addressed any of the old issues but to makes things more fun they pile on new features that have their own issues hopping you won’t notice the old issues have not been resolved?
things have to change or acade will go the route of promis e remember that it was one of the biggest selling and most respected electrical cad programs out there now its !!!!!!! You tell me sunk without a trace
its a matter of time before an open souce electrical desgn package appears then the guys at autodesk will all be in looking for new jobs
Phew, have you access to any vallium...it would be a good start. Haha
It's not my car it's yours, I'm happy with mine.
Enough! I have work to do, thanks for cheering me up!
hello Leeb
it seems that you have low expectations of ACADE functonality and are quite happy with how poorly Autodesk adresses issues
heres s few ideas i could not delete off the ideas station
hand on heart there must be at least one there that would make your life a lot easier
http://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-electrical-ideastation/saving-report-formats/idi-p/5259597
http://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-electrical-ideastation/wire-cable-lengths/idi-p/5255251
http://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-electrical-ideastation/wire-type-error-checking/idi-p/5223133
http://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-electrical-ideastation/ansi-isa-s5-4/idi-p/5197651
http://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-electrical-ideastation/new-report-formatiing/idi-p/5202781
http://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-electrical-ideastation/drafting-aid/idi-p/5249607
700 pages of schematics 2000 reports no loss of speed everthing cross referances automatically live well it an't ACADE
I think you have gone a bit off-topic here!
The simple answer is accept that ACADE has many bugs that have been there for years. Learn to work round them and accept that most of them will never be fixed. You don't need to pay a subscription every year. I got off the roundabout a few years ago. I am still using 2010 and I suspect (know) that all I am missing is a shiny new interface! Software companies have to find a way of producing continuing cash flow by bring out new versions without admitting that there is anything wrong with the existing version. As for support, I get alll mine from this forum, not Autodesk.
Stay cool!
Hi,
Thanks for submitting those ideas to Ideastation. To understand how Autodesk handles these ideas, please take a look at the Ideastation blog post - http://autodesk.typepad.com/systemsdesign/
I see that an idea has already been accepted and few are under review. Stay tuned 🙂
Regards,
Rajeshree Dembla
Autodesk,Inc.
Yes I took a look and the last entry made me laugh so hard I almost dropped my coffee
How can you with a straight face claim success with the phoenix integration when you and I know you haven't done the job properly
Why because it’s a one way trip to inventor wow jump up and down raise the Autodesk flag dance in the streets but wait
Back in Eplan version 5 ways back in the dim distant past when Acade was known as WD toolbox and Autodesk decided electrical design is not part of their business plan(still is by my reckoning)
Eplan could talk to phoenix clip art and low and behold write back the data into the Eplan project
Well done for half implementing a feature that is more than 10 years old and in your nemesis software
At this rate you will be half as good as Eplan circa 2005 in 30 years time
The definition of insanity is doing the same thing again and again and expecting a different result
When is someone at the top going to put the game changer in place yhour doing the same thing but not wining hearts and mind outside of the good old USA which as you and i know where the profits will be comming from in the future ?
Hi ccad,
I like how passionate and informed you are about electrical products! I'd like for you to join our beta forum, where you can help us decide the future of AutoCAD Electrical. If you are interested please email me at rajeshree.dembla@autodesk.com
Thanks,
Rajeshree Dembla
Autodesk,Inc.
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