Drawing wires that aren´t either horizontal or vertical.

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Drawing wires that aren´t either horizontal or vertical.

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Hi there,

I was wondering if it´s possible somehow to draw a wire that isn´t plain horizontal or vertical?

Any comments appreciated?

Regards, Gary

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The drop down menu for wires lets you chose 22.5 degree, 45 degree and 67.5 degree angles for wires.  Hope this helps. 

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dougmcalexander
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You can also add wire connections to a device that accept a wire that comes in at an angle.  The name of the wire connections must be X0TERM01, X0TERM02, etc.

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RE: X0TERMn
See attached pic

 

My MOTOR SYMBOL

T1 connection = X0TERM01

T2 connection = X4TERM02

T3 connection = X0TERM03

T4 connection = X0TERM04

 

I would like to connect from the motor back to whatever WITHOUT using the 22.5,45, 67.5 wires.
No switching line and also easier to develop continuity between designers.

 

I thought the X0TERMn would allow me to do that.

This is what happens:

T1 goes left like I want it to at ? angle,

T2 no problem,

T3 goes right and a different angle than T1? In this case I would want it to got to the left at the same angle as T1.

PE goes right as I would want it to but at still another different angle? I would expect the angle to be the same as T1.

 

When using X0TERMn where does the direction and angle come from?

 

Thanks for any input,

Mike

 

 

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dougmcalexander
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Are you possibly using a custom motor symbol?  In the video at the link below I use the 3-phase motor symbol that is included with AutoCAD Electrical and the wires angle and trim as expected.  I am using a rung spacing of 0.75 and my snap is set to 0.125 and this is a ladder diagram placed on a D-size drawing border.  I placed the base point of the motor at the end of the middle power wire.  The software will handle the trimming and angling details.  Even when I insert the ground wire the software knows what to do.  I clicked on the Insert Wire icon, pressed T and enter on my keyboard to select the wire type, and then clicked near where I know the ground symbol is on the motor.  Hint: You can press the letter X on your keyboard, followed by the enter key, while inserting a wire and the software will provide temporary markers that show where the wire connections are located. Each wire connection is indicated by a green letter "X". 

 

It helps to know what version of AutoCAD Electrical you are using and we might be able to help even more effectively if you can post a drawing file that exhibits the issue.

 

Video showing the insertion of a 3-phase motor:  https://www.screencast.com/t/bSx7EQoLXQO

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For now on I will put the version right in the tittle as we all should, it matters.

 

Attached is the symbol I am trying to use, HMO13_3P-MOTOR

This motor is loaded with RATINGS so we can populate the drawing with the ratings set up in the TEXTVALUE column in the Catalog Browser. Also set up with features of a Parent Symbol so Child Symbols can be linked. Child Symbols we are using are Motor Brakes and Motor Encoders. All works great except dropping it on wires.

 

I also tested the HM013 Symbol out of the Menu and dropped it on a multiple bus. I took a picture of the what it did, it is attached. That didn't work right either. That symbol could have been tampered with at some point in time, I don't know. I also attached that Symbol.

 

I watched the video that was perfect for dropping on 3 wires. Should it also work when attaching wires to a stand alone symbol?

 

Thanks,

Mike

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rhesusminus
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Your motor symbols doesn't work, because the insertion point of the symbol is wrong. It's currently at the RED arrow (not RED arrows Smiley LOL)

Move all components so that the insertion point is at the center of the circle (GREEN arrow).

2017-01-16_19-35-15.png

 

The X0TERMXX connaction point breaks the wires towards the insertion point of the symbol, creating the problems you experience right now.

 

My fixed symbol looks like this:

2017-01-16_19-41-07.png

 

Attached you'll find the fixed symbol.

 

 


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Anonymous
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Thank You rheusminus! That took care of that problem.

 

The reason I had the insertion point up there was to get line number to match the VFD which is the way they want it here, kind of like a loop number. The fuse holder FU, VFD, and motor MO all have the same number. Is there a way to get that number on the motor?

 

Mike

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rhesusminus
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You can draw your motor symbol like this:

2017-01-16_23-05-51.png

And avoid using X0TERM??  attributes 🙂


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Anonymous
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OK.

 

That could resolve the numbering issue and still break/connect wires.

The insertion point would be moved to the top wire to get the automatic numbering desired.

 

Thanks Again.

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stuartplunkett94
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is there a hotkey/command for the 45degrees? aewire still only does 90degrees

 

edit: nevermind, it's ae45wire

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testsubject
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45 degrees is on the right mouse click menu.



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