Attribuites Not showing after TB update

[Anonymous]

Okay, i have modified a titleblock with a new attribuite. I went through all the steps and Acad Electrical recoginzes this new line and attribute in the titleblock descriptions, and the screen for titleblock update (where you do your selections.) However, when I go and do the titleblock update nothing shows up. Any idea why this would happen? What could I be missing?

[jseefdrumr]

How/where did you modify the title block? Was it in the original drawing file, or in the drawing where the block resides?

It sounds like the former, so with that in mind...

Title blocks are no different than any other block. If you modify the base file, you won't see any changes in the existing versions of the block without killing, running PURGE, and re-inserting.

However, ACADE offers the Swap/Update tool, and it works on title blocks too. Try that and see if it works.

Hope this helps,

Jim

[Anonymous]

I tried both of those, with no luck, would you be able to look at my files and see if maybe I missed something? I attached my .wdt, .wdl, .wdp, a drawing sample and the block itself

[jseefdrumr]

I'm assuming that TITLE#4 is the new attribute.

When I go to drawing properties and add gibberish to the fields there, and then update the title block, I see the gibberish from Description 1 appear in your TITLE#4 attribute, which is mapped as DWGDESC in your WD_TB block. This is working as I expect it to.

Are you getting the same result?

See image: I highlighted the Description 1 field. This text appears in your TITLE#4 attribute becauseWD_TB tells it to. The text in the other two Description fields don't appear anywhere because they require DWGDESC2 and DWGDESC3 attributes.

[Anonymous]

Sorry no, Document ID is the new attribuite (MDSID)

[jseefdrumr]

Aw, man, just when I had impressed myself with my powers of deduction too!

I can take another look at this later today, I'll be sure to pay attention to that one this time.

[Anonymous]

Thanks, I'm so bad at leaving out those little details!

[Yong.Jing]

Christina, 

In you wdp file, Line 1 to 10 has been defined. So when you update title block these lines are defined. 

In the title block drawing ,Line 1 to 10 attribute has been defined same as the  wdp file, so there is no update. 

If delete the default, it will update. 

[Anonymous]

I guess I don't understand what you are telling me? the attribute has been defined in the wdp because that's what I filled out in the description box while in Acad, the drawing I attached is part of a project. everything updates except for line 10 (Document ID)

[jseefdrumr]

Sorry it took a little while for me to take another look at this...had to put out some fires around here.

Now, you were a little perplexed at how you could see the MDSID field in the update dialog yet not get any results upon executing the command. What we see in that dialog is really the reflection of a text file, the wdtitle.wdl file. That info is meaningless unless the proper 'connections' are made via title block setup. This problem came down to MDSID being accounted for in your wdtitle.wdl, but it apparently had been skipped over during Title Block Setup.

Here's what I did:

I opened the title block drawing and looked at the information in WD_TB. It revealed that there was nothing pertaining to either LINE10 or MDSID stored within it. I added the correct definition via Title Block Setup, killed the old title block from the drawing, purged it, and re-inserted the title block. Updated all fields first try.

The workflow for this fix is pretty easy: just go to where the title block is kept, open it up as a dwg (not as a block) and go to Title Block Setup. Add MDSID to LINE10. Hit OK. Note that the command line says 'Updating WD_TB attribute definition'; this is the only indication offered by ACADE that any changes have taken place. If you double click on the WD_TB attribute itself, you can see where your changes were added to the definition in Properties.

Now go to any drawing that has that title block. Kill the title block and PURGE its definition from the drawing. Insert the title block again. Check to see that it updates. That should be it.

I didn't try to use swap/update block for this. I'm not sure if it would matter, it's just that when I look for work-arounds I try to eliminate 'bundled' commands that do multiple things in one step. Makes it easier to troubleshoot sometimes. You can try it though, it saves a step or three.

I think this should get you together. Post back if it doesn't...

Jim

[jalger]

Hi Christina,

Remove the "WD_TB" attribute from the bottom of your titleblock.

To do this, select the block (do this in your template) and choose "block editor".

Then go to the bottom right and delete the attribute. (WD_TB).

Then save the block.

After that try doing the update.

(I did this so you guys have a picture, otherwise follow what Jim said)

I hope this helps,

James

[jseefdrumr]

That is a much more elegant solution than mine!!

I never would have stumbled on that on my own because I avoid using the BEDIT command in ACADE...not much need for it in my workflows since I can use swap/update.

Thanks for the tip James!

[jalger]

No problem,

Sometime Regular AutoCAD Commands can help out a lot, you just have to be careful.

My solution will fix the template but you would still need to Wblock out the Titleblock then do an update. (Option B should work)

Or save a copy of the Title Block in the Icon menu then do a project wide titleblock swap. (option A)

I hope this helps,

James

[Anonymous]

Okay, I followed your steps but it still hasn't changed. Please see attached clips, one of hte WD-TB attribute box and one of the titleblock set up screen.

When you get a chance, let me know what you think, i also checked the .wdl and .wdt files to make sure they were updated also.

[jalger · Accepted solution]

Try deleting the WD_TB Attribute.

AutoCAD Electrical will fight with the WDT file if a WD_TB Attribute exists.

Regards,

James

[jseefdrumr]

You're certain that you deleted AND purged the old one before re-inserting?

I'm having no problems here, using both my method and James's.

After editing the title block, did you try in a fresh drawing/project?

[Anonymous]

Celebrated too soon...while I did get the document ID to show up finally, I noticed my page number settings went away...so now I have the task of trying to remember what we had set up before....

[jalger]

Hi Christina,

Make sure you have assigned the Drawing properties in the titleblock mapping. (for sheet and sheet max).

See screenshot:

I hope this helps,

James