Need help my Plumbing Fixture Dynamic Block is not printing out on the correctly

cadamsX87LN
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Need help my Plumbing Fixture Dynamic Block is not printing out on the correctly

cadamsX87LN
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Can someone please help I am trying to get my Dynamic Block to print correctly. If you look at the Pdf you will see the Multi-View block I use for my Dynamic Block prints correct by itself. But once it is in the Dynamic block it looks right on the screen (see CAD file) but when I print it out it's wrong, prints on the 0 layer per the PDF file. 

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cadamsX87LN
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This Dynamic Block is displaying correct on the correct layer and color, however when I print it shows as if on the "0" layer. It is a Dynamic Block with different visibilities that are Multi View Blocks.

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pendean
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Nothing attached.
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cadamsX87LN
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Sorry about that had problems with uploadingfile

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pendean
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@cadamsX87LN wrote:

Sorry about that had problems with uploadingfile


You appear to have too many objects on too many layers, here is a quick fix using LAYMRG command, see attached.

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cadamsX87LN
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The block is still printing to heavy the block shows the correct layer but the block prints as if still on the "0" layer that is a thicker lineweight

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pendean
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@cadamsX87LN wrote:

The block is still printing to heavy the block ...


You don't have one block: you have a dynamic block which contains many blocks, I did not go into each to test, but I suspect each individual block needs to be individually edited so it's content properties are all set to BYBLOCK. You have some effort to go through to fix them, there are LISP that can help if you' like to use them

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Are you wholly committed to using this one dynamic block for all of your plumbing needs? They are always a nice idea until they need fixing.

 

HTH

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R_Tweed
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I'm all in for using dynamic blocks, they add certain functions to adjust geometry etc.  Embedding mutliview block definitions might not be the best approach for what you are doing.

 

Mutli view blocks are definition based and can be swapped through the properties pallet. 

 

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A definition can be applied to a selection. You can change out toilet, sink, lav etc.  These definitions can be saved in a library file outside of the current dwg.

 

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I don't know if your extended data is available when nested either.

 

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cadamsX87LN
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Good morning, R-Tweed.

 

I am unable to see "PROPERTY SETS FROM STYLE" how did you get to this?

I did "Apply Tool Properties to Multi-View Block Reference" but anything happened.

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Thanks for your help and have a great day.

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R_Tweed
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Select mv block, right click  and edit the multi view block definition.

 

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Once you have the definition properties open, select the property sets button and add propoerty sets using the icons shown.

 

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This will allow you to add property sets that are available at a style and definition level.

 

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Check your style manager for property set definitions that apply to mv block defintions.

 

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cadamsX87LN
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I was able to find the locations but cannot pick any of the options to "edit Property Set Data". Any suggest on how to get access to these options. 

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R_Tweed
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It looks like your dwg doesn't have any propoerty set definitions. You can import property set definitions from another file through the style manager.  C:\ProgramData\Autodesk\ACA 202#\enu\Styles\Imperial\Schedule Tables (Imperial).dwg as shown below has a number of definitions available. 

 

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cadamsX87LN
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How can I set the color to be byblock instead of bylayer?

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R_Tweed
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I'm sure there are other lisp routines out there and you might want to hunt down something else.

 

Here is a link to an forum post color byblock inside blocks .

 

1. _AecMoveBlockToLayer0 can be found on the visiontools tab and or merge layers to 0.

2. use a lisp routine like the one above to make a routine to change nested block entities to color byblock.

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cadamsX87LN
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In Block Reference, you can set the "Color" to Byblock. Is there a way to set Multi-View Block "Color" to Byblock also? See below

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David_W_Koch
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@cadamsX87LN 

 

You can, but not on the Properties palette.

 

Select your Multi-View Block, right click, and choose Edit Object Display from the context menu.

 

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In the Object display dialog, on the General Properties tab (the only one for Multi-View Blocks), select the Color button.  In the Select Color dialog that then appears, choose the ByBlock button.

 

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Select OK twice to accept the change and dismiss both dialogs.

 

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Your Multi-View Block will have a Color property value of ByBlock.  I assume you want to nest this inside of another Block Reference, and have the Multi-View Block pick up the color of the parent Block Reference.


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cadamsX87LN
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Yes, but when it prints doesn't use the byblock color but the orginal color of the "0" layer
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David_W_Koch
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What version are you using, and do you have the latest update installed for it?

 

I recall that there was an issue with one of the releases some time back where ByBlock display settings in external references were not handled correctly, but that was fixed in an update.  I do not recall what version that was, and was not able to quickly find anything about it on the internet.

 

I did find that there was an issue in AutoCAD 2019 and 2020 with nested blocks showing the wrong color.  I am not certain if that extended to Multi-View Blocks in AutoCAD Architecture.  The article states that the incident is being investigated.  That may or may not apply to your situation.

 

Can you reply and attach a sample file that shows the issue.  Someone here can take a look at it to see if anything else may be involved with the issue.


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