schedule for a wall component

schedule for a wall component

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schedule for a wall component

kostimea
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How can I make a schedule to list just a component of a wall (not the whole wall, containing several components) and show the total  m3 of this material used in a project.

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Victoria.Studley
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Hi @kostimea,

 

As far as I can tell, it doesn't seem possible to schedule the wall components and their volume for take-offs (assuming this is your intent - correct me if I'm wrong).

 

I've dug around a bit in the schedules and property set data in AutoCAD Architecture, and looked into some old forum posts with similar questions. One indicated they may have found a solution, but perhaps the conversation was offline.

 

I see it was several years ago, but do you have any thoughts on this David? Maybe you can offer some advice that I've overlooked here. Smiley Happy

 

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David_W_Koch
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@Victoria.Studley@kostimea

 

Apologies, but I looked at those threads and any "help" I provided must have been from posts I may have made in my blog or in other threads, but not specifically for this case.  I opened the file he posted to the AUGI Forum, but the schedule tables all had errors for at least one property - lots of missing anchor references.  Not sure if it is because the file was done with VisionREZ or not.  Last I looked, VisionREZ seemed to have gone all Revit.

 

Anyway, there is not an out-of-the-box way to get data on individual components in a Wall.  With sufficient familiarity with the object model (which I do not posses), you might be able to get a very complex formula property to tease out the components from the Wall Style, and maybe even the widths of the components (for fixed width components, anyway), and then use that to do take offs.  You won't get areas for specific components, just the overall Wall, but perhaps if the take off does not need to be accurate to several decimal places, that would be sufficient.

 

We have never had a need to generate that sort of detailed data at my firm, so I have never gone down that path.


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brian_adams
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Only one solution for the issue. You can not schedule it but can recive the entire volume of walls. You only have to group them in one groupe and enter the command "materiallist". and apply it for the group. Press F2 and can see the volume of all the materials of the walls in the one group( not the components but materials) . It is preferable to set one different material to every wall layer.
it also applyable to the other AEC objects( slab, roofslab...columns ..beems) that have materials.
Good luck.

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brian_adams
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I Worked out more with this issue
And make schedule to counting wall components
It based on style description of wall and areas of wall surfaces. As I cant get to wall index values(width, material) I have to made alternative notes to discribe it.
Thus, it necessary to write precise form of description to make this schedule work properly.
It starts with "|" simbol and then description(like brick or concreat) after desription necessary to make few spases and write value of width( maximum 5 figures).Then next layer start like first with "|"/
Last one should be finised with the figures of last width(no any simbols like point etc)AND NOT HITTING ENTER anywhere in discription. It should be like a single string.
if real width of wall is bigger or smaler in schedule("for notes" column) will be written worring and value of exceeding or vice a verse.
Schedule can work with maximum 7 layer of the wall. Think it enought. It can't take into count any swips and addaptive body-modifiers(only subtractive)and endcapes , but it takes into count all kinde of openings(window, wall etc) and roof floor line modifiers. this schedule designed for simple wall
It can counts volume pretty fine.( you can check it with "materiallist" command)
Restriction of wall constraction : it should be bilt on a left base line with inner layer from the left and outer layer from the right( like in example it for 2019 ACA )
HOPE it will be sutable for someone
Cheers 🙂layer_count.JPGstyle.JPG

 

 

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brian_adams
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just in case got  ACA 2010 ver and for recent ones till 2019
It just necessary to add one column with justification. It is already in prop set

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brian_adams
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sorry. File  that I attached is for  ACA 2010 in  "mm" unites only.  This one for any unites

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brian_adams
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Actually the last solution...it is as accurate as possible

https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-architecture/vba-materiallist/td-p/7672635

 

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