Releasing objects after MOVE, COPY, etc.

[travis_reynolds]

Updated to latest ACAD and have an issue I've never had before.  When I move or copy an object, or group of objects, the software used to release the objects once it moved or copied the object.  Now after I move or copy, the object, or objects, remain selected.  I have to hit ESC to release them.  

Is there a system variable that can change this?  This is a problem because as I zoom into click the destination point, I no longer see the originally selected objects and my follow up commands effect those items in another area of my model that I'm not seeing.

Thanks for any help you can offer.

[Vinayv4v]

Hi,

Check the following variables.

[pendean]

Sounds like you just discovered R2018's ability to hold on to objects off-screen instead of dropping them like older versions: is that it perhaps?

Also, did you also install the hotfix for it? Won't address this but it will help with other bugs shipped out with R2018.

[travis_reynolds]

Vinay,

Thank you, but that did not help.  All those system var's are set correctly.

[travis_reynolds]

Dean, 

I'm a little behind the curve.  I updated to 2017 Architecture.

[TheCADnoob]

I believe off screen selection was release in a fall update of 2017 so perhaps you may have off screen selection in your distro

[pendean]

I'm not seeing this in ACA2017: any chance you can post a video showing us this problem in action? Grab the free SCREENCAST app from Autodesk for that.

And it happens in all files, correct? Every single file.

[RobDraw]

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@travis_reynolds wrote:

Now after I move or copy, the object, or objects, remain selected.  I have to hit ESC to release them.

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There are people who would like this functionality. Make sure you post the cause of it when you get it sorted.

[travis_reynolds]

Here's a link to the screencast video.  

[travis_reynolds]

Stick with me.  I know the link didn't show up in my last post.  I'm still trying to figure out this Screencast thing.

[Alfred.NESWADBA]

Hi,

a few questions:

• does that happen with a simple line too or only with some AEC-objects?
• when you ended the first copy (the state as at the end of your video) and you then start again _COPY ... are these objects really selected or is it just a display issue? (as I don't see grips I'm not really sure if these objects are selected or not)

- alfred -

[travis_reynolds]

It only seems to happen when I select certain groups of objects.   A single line, and even groups of lines, will release the selections once I finish the command.  

When I select multiple objects is when it happens.  If you notice in the Screencast, the Multiple Objects tool panel has popped up on the ribbon.  Initially, I edited the panel to house my Modify toolbar.  But it's still an annoyance that it won't release the selections because as I choose a new command, it applies that command to the formerly selected group. 

[pendean]

ACA2017 is not doing that here: might be time to reset it (back up any customizations first) https://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/autocad/troubleshooting/caas/sfdcarticles/sfdcarticles/How-to...

[Alfred.NESWADBA]

Hi,

>> It only seems to happen when I select certain groups of objects.  

Can we have the drawing with that objects?

>> Initially, I edited the panel to house my Modify toolbar.

Can we see the command statement you used for that copy item?

And as a proof if it's AutoCAD or panel-command specific: select the objects, then type in command _.COPY (including underline and point) and do the copy + end of command ==> are the objects again selected after your copy command was finished?

- alfred -

[Vinayv4v]

Hi Travis,

Try to set the copymode to <1> which will Set the COPY command to create a single copy. And check whether the problem is still there. Then change the copymode to <0> as default and check if the problem is still happening. (Initial value <0>)

Try SELECTIONEFFECT system variable. (Initial value <1>)

0 : Dashed Lines

1 : When hardware acceleration is on, displays glowing line highlighting effect

Try HIGHLIGHT

0 : Turns off object selection highlighting (Initial value <1>)

1 : Turns on object selection highlighting

PREVIEWFILTER (SYSTEM VARIABLE)

Excludes specified object types from selection previewing.

Initial Value :<3>

The setting is stored as a bitcode using the sum of the following values:

0	Excludes nothing
1	Excludes objects on locked layers
2	Excludes objects in xrefs
4	Excludes tables
8	Excludes multiline text objects
16	Excludes hatch objects
32	Excludes objects in groups (Reset these variable to Initial values if these don't work)

[travis_reynolds]

Alfred,

You're onto something here.  It only happens when I use the COPY command from the Modify panel under the Multiple Objects tab.  It does not happen when I use the COPY command from the Modify panel on my Home tab or when I type in the _.COPY.   Something happened when I copied my Modify panel to the Multiple Objects tab.  

Similar issues happen with MIRROR, MOVE, ROTATE commands.  The selection remains selected after finishing a command from the Multiple Objects tab, but not from the Home tab.

See screencast...

Is there a way to disable the Multiple Objects tab from automatically opening when multiple objects are selected?  That would probably solve the issue as well.

[imadHabash]

Hi,

just an idea:

would you try to disable hardware acceleration from 3DCONFIG command and see if any change?

[Alfred.NESWADBA]

Hi,

I'm sorry that I don't know what happens on your system as starting the _COPY command from the "Multiple Objects" panel looks like a normal copy command (from what I see in the command line). In plain AutoCAD I don't have such a panel, in Civil 3D I do have such a panel, but it does not contain the same groups as you have, e.g. there is no copy button available. I guess now that this might be specific to AutoCAD Architecture or you have modified/created that panel by your own.

As I don't have that panel (I don't have AutoCAD Architecture), I'm sorry that I can't help more (without seeing the details behind the copy-button).

- alfred -

[TheCADnoob]

I would either copy via the other method or i would go into the cui and edit the buttons in the contextual menu to get the behavior you want.