Architecture and LT have compatibility problems

Architecture and LT have compatibility problems

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Architecture and LT have compatibility problems

Anonymous
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In our firm we use LT and I edited a drawing prepared with Architecture, moved a couple of doors and windows. I saved the file as auctocad 2004.

I sent the file by e-mail and the other user with Arcitecture didn't see any AEC object boxes and single lines.

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Above is the sample of the drawings open in architecture after I save in LT.

Please let me know if you have any soluction for this issue.

Thank you

Luis Acosta

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leothebuilder
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No, there is no solution.

Autocad Architecture is a different software than Autocad LT.

 

Like buying a car that drives on gas and trying to put diesel in the tank.............not going to work.

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David_W_Koch
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You say you saved the file as AutoCAD 2004.  What versions of the programs are you using?  Are they 2007 or later?  AutoCAD Architecture objects do not save back to previous file formats, which may be contributing to the problem you show here.


David Koch
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Tallans422
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The way you are describing your workflow is a bit backwards from what I would expect with the result your seeing.  Typically you wouldn't even be able to modify an architecture file in LT unless it was exported, giving you linework instead of AEC objects.  When you save, the person in architecture would just see linework, not AEC objects or the boxes you are seeing.

 

It's good practice to "export" as opposed to "save as" when saving down architecture files.  This will at least allow them to view/modify the linework and you won't end up with the boxes you're seeing.

 

Todd S.

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leothebuilder
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When you "export" you will loose are AEC objects, so your coworkers using Autocad Architecture will not be able to revert back to AEC.

Frankly, the two software packages do not work together.

It's either ACA with AEC objects, or you use plain autocad with linework which is also compatible with LT.

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Anonymous
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I use AutoCad LT 2016.

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leothebuilder
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Doesn't matter which version of LT

LT is still not compatible with Autocad Architecture AEC objects.

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Anonymous
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autocad LT 2016.JPG

Attached is the image of the same corner open with AutoCad LT. The previous picture shown the image from architecture without doors and walls.

Please let me know if you find any solution.

Thank you

Luis

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leothebuilder
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There is NO solution to working with an ACA / AEC file within Autocad LT 2016.

 

If you want to maintain the AEC objects you must use Autocad Architecture software and only Autocad Architecture sotware!

 

If you don't need to maintain AEC objects, open the file in Autocad Architecture and use the EXPORT command to convert the file

to plain autocad objects such as lines and circles. You can then use the exported file in Autocad LT without any problems.

 

Just realize that once the file has been exported to plain autocad you CAN NOT convert the file back to AEC objects.

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David_W_Koch
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Vanilla AutoCAD and AutoCAD LT should have the ACA Object Enabler built in, so you should be able to open a file created in AutoCAD Architecture and see the AEC objects and even perform limited edits.  (You cannot create new objects from scratch, but you should be able to move existing objects.)

 

The problem is you say you are saving back to the 2004 format.  Why?  As previously mentioned, AEC objects cannot be saved back to a previous file format in a usable form.  Is the user with AutoCAD Architecture using the 2004 release?  If so, when you opened that file in a 2016 release product, the object enabler upgraded the AEC objects to the 2016 format.  When you save back to the 2004 format, the AEC objects are not downgraded to the 2004 format, and a user opening the file with Architectural Desktop 2004 will get a notice that the file contains future objects and all of the AEC modules will be disabled.

 

If the AutoCAD Architecture user is using the 2013 version or later, if you save the file to the AutoCAD 2013 format, you should be able to exchange files without major issues, provided that you do not need to do extensive editing of AEC objects.


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Anonymous
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Thank you All for your assistance

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Anonymous
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If we use regular AutoCad and I moved doors from a file preapred in Architecture then save as autoCAD the other user with architecture 2010 will see the AEC objects without any problem?

Do you know?

Thank you

Luis

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leothebuilder
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I believe that with object enablers you can make minor changes within plain autocad to an ACA / AEC file.

I am not sure if object enablers are available for autocad LT.

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David_W_Koch
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@Anonymous wrote:

If we use regular AutoCad and I moved doors from a file preapred in Architecture then save as autoCAD the other user with architecture 2010 will see the AEC objects without any problem?

Do you know?

Thank you

Luis


If you are using AutoCAD LT 2016 and the other user has AutoCAD Architecture 2010, you are still going to have file format problems, as ACA 2010 uses the AutoCAD 2010 format and your 2016 product uses the 2013 format.


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Anonymous
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I used a architecture 2015 and sent to the other user and he use architecture 2010 and still get the file without doors and walls.

Luis

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David_W_Koch
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ACA 2015 uses the 2013 file format.  ACA 2010 uses the 2010 file format.  While the program lets you save a 2013 format file to 2010 format, that is only effective for vanilla AutoCAD objects.  AEC Objects will not be usable and, the presence of future AEC Objects will disable the AEC features when opening that file in ACA 2010.

 

If the only reason for doing this is so that someone with ACA 2010 can view the file, you could turn on PROXYGRAPHICS (set it to 1) in the file.  That will greatly increase the file size and it will still not allow the 2010 user to make use of any AEC commands.  The bottom line is for multiple people to effectively share files in AutoCAD Architecture, everyone needs to be running a version that uses the same file format.  Ideally, everyone would be using the same version, with the same service packs applied, but at the very least, they all need to be using versions that use the same file format.

 

For the record:

Architectural Desktop 2004, 2005 and 2006 all use the 2004 file format.

Architectural Desktop 2007, AutoCAD Architecture 2008 and 2009 all use the 2007 file format.

AutoCAD Architecture 2010, 2011 and 2012 all use the 2010 file format.

AutoCAD Architecture 2013, 2014, 2015 and 2016 all use the 2013 file format.


David Koch
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