Speedform 2020

[porca_paletta]

Is Speedform 2020 available as a stand-alone installation?

It looks like it's not on AVA (all other Alias 2020 softwares are available, though Design link is not active)

Thanks  a lot

[rossbau · Accepted solution]

AutoStudio customers

Autodesk is discontinuing Autodesk^® Alias^® SpeedForm as an entitlement to Autodesk^® Alias^® AutoStudio subscription and maintenance plans.

Why is this happening?

With the 2020 release of Autodesk Alias software, we are introducing sub-divisional modeling capabilities directly into the Alias user experience. This is in-line with the Autodesk strategy to converge, connect, and automate design workflows, so customers can be more efficient and spend more time on design exploration and innovation.

As a result of the direct integration of sub-divisional modeling, we are simplifying the Alias portfolio with the discontinuation of Alias SpeedForm.

When is this happening?

• Starting with the 2020 release of Alias AutoStudio in July 2019, Alias SpeedForm will no longer be a subscription or maintenance plan entitlement.

As an Alias AutoStudio subscription or maintenance plan customer, you will continue to have access to previous versions of Alias SpeedForm corresponding with your previous version subscription benefits.

In addition, you can begin using the integrated sub-divisional modeling capabilities directly inside Alias AutoStudio being introduced in the 2020 release in July 2019.

Alias Concept customers

Autodesk is discontinuing Autodesk^® Alias^® SpeedForm and Autodesk^® SketchBook^® as entitlements to Autodesk^® Alias^® Concept subscription and maintenance plans. Alias Concept will continue to be offered as a stand-alone product.

Why is this happening?

With the 2020 release of Autodesk Alias software, we are introducing sub-divisional modeling capabilities directly into the Alias user experience. This is in-line with the Autodesk strategy to converge, connect, and automate design workflows, so customers can be more efficient and spend more time on design exploration and innovation.

As a result of the direct integration of sub-divisional modeling, we are simplifying the Alias portfolio with the discontinuation of Alias SpeedForm.

When is this happening?

• Starting with the 2020 release of Alias Concept in July 2019, Alias SpeedForm will no longer be a subscription or maintenance plan entitlement.

As an Alias Concept subscription or maintenance plan customer, you will continue to have access to previous versions of Alias SpeedForm corresponding with your previous version subscription benefits.

Autodesk SketchBook is now available for free and can be downloaded from https://sketchbook.com.

In addition, you can begin using the integrated sub-divisional modeling capabilities directly inside Alias Concept being introduced in the 2020 release in July 2019.

Customers with Alias SpeedForm and Alias Design

Autodesk will no longer offer new or additional subscriptions of Autodesk^® Alias^® SpeedForm or Autodesk^® Alias^® Design software.

Why is this happening?

With the 2020 release of Autodesk Alias software, we are introducing sub-divisional modeling capabilities directly into the Alias user experience. This is in-line with the Autodesk strategy to converge, connect, and automate design workflows, so customers can be more efficient and spend more time on design exploration and innovation.

As a result of the direct integration of sub-divisional modeling, we are simplifying the Alias portfolio with the discontinuation of Alias SpeedForm and Alias Design. 

When will these changes take place?

• Starting July 6, 2019, Autodesk will no longer sell new or additional subscriptions of Alias SpeedForm or Alias Design
• Starting July 6, 2019, only annual renewals of Alias SpeedForm and Alias Design will be possible
• Starting July 6, 2020, Autodesk will no longer offer renewals of subscription and maintenance plans for Alias SpeedForm or Alias Design

As a subscriber, you can continue to use Alias SpeedForm or Alias Design, receive support, and access previous versions of your software until your contract ends. 

If you have access to a perpetual license of Alias SpeedForm or Alias Design, you can continue to use your software as long as you would like. You can also continue to receive support and other benefits, like previous rights, until your maintenance plan contract ends.

Alternatively, you can also subscribe to Autodesk^® Alias^® Concept which includes the sub-divisional feature set of Alias SpeedForm directly inside the Alias user experience, along with all the surface modeling tools currently available with Alias Design.

[scott.mayson]

The subdiv tools in Alias 2020 are nothing like those in Speedform! If your going to merge software at lease make it as good as what was previously available!!

[rossbau]

Hello Dr. Mayson,

In order to make possible what is in my reach, I would like to ask you, what is the problem with the subdiv tools in Alias 2020 compared to Speedform is. I already do understand a great deal of usability of Alias vs Speedform but what tools are missing or what tool behavior is so annoying to you?

Might be in helps when I emphasize on why the subdiv tools has been implemented into Alias.

The goal was to improve the Concept Design process. Since Alias plays a great deal in it, and since the detailed design stage after the concept design stage will be done by a huge majority of our clients and potential client out there, the combination of NURBS modeling with subdiv techniques in one software is convincing and even requested.

A good integration, and I mean integration and not just offering another poly-modeler inside Alias, can be done by adapting the math-basics. The subdiv definition in Alias uses NURBS surfaces as Limit Surface for the subdiv definition. This unique math definition offers a tight integration with NURBS tools and with-it things like trimming, projecting and history.

This tight integration (hybrid modeling of subdivs and NURBS) brings huge advantages in the entire product development process and this is the overwhelming reason why the subdiv tools where developed.

It was not about making “another Speedform in Alias”.

With very best regards

Uwe Rossbacher

[cekuhnen]

@rossbau 

if I read you right in Alias you can trim sub-d surfaces and you do not need to convert sub-d first to nurbs patches ?

[rossbau]

Yes!

Please recognize the specialty of the Alias Subdiv implementation that has a NURBS surface as limit-surface for the Subdivs.

All kinds of advantages in "playing nice with common alias modeling tools" coming out of this.

Kind Regards

Uwe Rossbacher

[cekuhnen]

@rossbau 

thank you for the explanation. This is pretty fantastic. Since 2001 (Amani pro) I started working with hybrid modeling - design environments and sofar found many solutions too much separating nurbs and sub-d workflows.

it reads that with alias you implemented a very smooth approach.

out of curiosity since you stated that while you model like with sub-d but have a nurbs surface How does a designer deal nurbs patch layout generated or is something alias users do not have to be concerned of?

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with t-splines this is always a highly irritating aspect because you have no real meaningful control over how the patch layout is being created.

also you do not have to deal with highly dense nurbs surfaces that have extra cvs along patch edges like visible in the linked image?

[infoKKUNF]

Hello. If I understand you right, the new Alias Autostudio will include the 2019 Speedform?

I have a slight problem now because I can not open my Speedform files, and we have just invested over 1 million dollars into making the parts made in speedform. Can you please help out with this?

[rauscht]

Hi,

with Alias 2020.2 (as released beginning of October) we have introduced the capability of directly importing SF3D files. Please check out File > Import > Subd. This will open a file chooser dialog. Please select the SpeedForm file to import into Alias 2020 there, and hit the Open button.

Please let me know if that solves your issue.

Thanks

Thomas

[clebercvieira4H6HZ]

totally agree!!

[clebercvieira4H6HZ]

Thanks for your great clarification Mr. Rossbacher but Dr. Jason is right!

There are some existent relation with previous Speedform but it is not a great tool as Alias Speedform is.

You are talking as an Engineer / math modeler. Please put yourself as an Automotive designer that should get creative ideas and play with it in less than 1 week. When you have several projects in hand time dictates your talent.

Speedform gives you much more freedom and fast ability to create what ever you want and in less time. Your point is right but for fast and real specific professional modelers.

Creative Designers that already use Alias as part of their tools will continuing using on the same way. Students that are beginning to use Autodesk softwares always complain how much time they devote themselves to build concept studies in Alias. Speedform was the answer for that. This also includes when you transfer these models to VRED for fast visual solution ideas. You can predict earlier the next stages and refine later in Alias. Students are the next generation designers...heads up for that.

If you bring the same easy interface atmosphere you have in Speedform then you will make some noise. 

thanks again for being open to discuss

Best

Cleber