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Exporting subd with nurbs

Andreas_Bergmann
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Exporting subd with nurbs

Andreas_Bergmann
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Sorry for asking this basic question, completely new to subd modeling. Checked forums and tutorials but could not find an answer.

What is the appropriate workflow for exporting subd models with nurbs surfaces? I have multi draft and surface fillets operations on my subd model and now I would like to export the whole model as a subd obj.

 

How does this work?

 

Best,

Andreas

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Besides using rollouts at the NURBS object level, you can use the NURBS toolbox to create sub-objects. Interface. Toolbox for NURBS objects.

 

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Andreas_Bergmann
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Hi ebonythomas121, appreciate your reply, but I don't quite get it, sorry.

I am using Alias Concept 2021.2, what is the Nurbs toolbox?

The model I have is subd with a creased edge loop, then I put a controlled surface fillet on this edge. This surface fillet is always nurbs. Now, can I export this model as subd obj including the surface fillet? What is the workflow?

 

Best,

Andreas

 

 

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stephan.pfoertner
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Hey Andreas, 

 

thanks for asking that question. I am afraid there is no obvious way to convert a hybrid subdiv nurbs model to a subdiv. Subdivision surfaces is a technique that has benefits in many areas, but it doesn't support trims, fillets, or other details, that can be realized with general nurbs surfaces. That is, why Alias provides you with a hybrid modeling approach. To get you the best out of both worlds. 

Now depending on your requirements, there might be solutions though:


1. In case you just need the smooth tessellated mesh, you can export it in the mesh format you need, e.g. obj format. However, that will remove the possibility to modify the mesh, using the coarse control cage. You will only retain the tiny tessellated triangles. This can be useful for downstream processing like rendering, 3d printing or cnc milling. However, it won't be useful for modeling anymore. 

 

2. In case you need the coarse control cage to be able to modify it, but this time it should include all the details like trims and fillets, there is no way around retopologizing the model. There are automated algorithms, that do retopologizing for you. Maya provides such an automated algorithm. Retopologizing a detailed hybrid model comes along with quality loss, though. So don't expect this to be exact, especially, when there are tiny details combined with large surfaces like in a hybrid model. Automated retopologizing is often sufficient in media and entertainment, when a perfect surface flow isn't business critical. However, when it comes to class A surfaces, a semiautomated retopologization is often better. Alias provides you with the Retopo Tool, which is made for that semi automated task. It will speed up the process dramatically. However, depending on the model's complexity it is still a fair amount of work. The gained quality is typically better, though - depending on the skills of the designer, of course. 

Hope that helps

Stephan

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Hi Stephan,

thanks for this detailed feedback and sharing your knowledge! This helps a lot and makes my day!

 

My current purpose is mainly for exporting and rendering and I was hoping to get a fully subd obj with quad meshing to generate clean uv maps. In general I learn to stick to a non hybrid workflow as long as possible if I want quad polygons as an output.

 

For small edge loop radius/fillets there are workarounds with the bevel/uncrease subd tools that will give sufficient results. And maybe in future there will be more subd tools for easy workflows.

 

Before posting this question I had a look into the nice retopo tool, but was hoping there is a more simple way than to rebuild the nurbs in my hybrid model, at least I was on the right way for high quality surfaces.

 

My wishlist: if possible boolean operations for subds / quad meshing for nurbs / and btw why is there no history to the subd extrude tool?

 

Thanks again and have a great day.

 

Best,

Andreas

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