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Pitfalls in Numbering and workarounds?

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daniel.tarnowski
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Pitfalls in Numbering and workarounds?

daniel.tarnowski
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One issue I have with Advance Steel is with it's numbering.  I understand the difference between Single part and Main part, and that one has a small letter prefix and one has a Capital letter prefix.

The issue I run into is that Windows does not differentiate between a small and capital letter.  For example, if I have an assembly B1 and a single part b1 and they are distinct elements in advance steel.  If I were to try to create NC or DXF files for both B1 and b1 and the output happens to be in the same folder, one of the two gets overwritten.  Even if I had separate output folders for single parts and main parts, I will often send those files to a subcontractor to shape cut beams, plates, etc.  Their software does not distinguish between b1 and B1 (small and capital) and one of the files is overwritten.

Now, much of this can be controlled by selecting options in the post numbering method.  But I have still run into instances where certain part marks are duplicated as both a small and capital letter with the same mark number.  Is there a way to select both SP for main part and SP for standalone part = Assembly No?  

It appears to be a one or the other situation.

I just realized part of my issue may be I like to start both numbering at 1, and increment by 1.

 

I'm curious if anyone else has figured out a way to keep from having different part marks for identical parts oven though there could be a combination of single, main, or stand alone parts.

 

Thank you for your help.

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Pitfalls in Numbering and workarounds?

One issue I have with Advance Steel is with it's numbering.  I understand the difference between Single part and Main part, and that one has a small letter prefix and one has a Capital letter prefix.

The issue I run into is that Windows does not differentiate between a small and capital letter.  For example, if I have an assembly B1 and a single part b1 and they are distinct elements in advance steel.  If I were to try to create NC or DXF files for both B1 and b1 and the output happens to be in the same folder, one of the two gets overwritten.  Even if I had separate output folders for single parts and main parts, I will often send those files to a subcontractor to shape cut beams, plates, etc.  Their software does not distinguish between b1 and B1 (small and capital) and one of the files is overwritten.

Now, much of this can be controlled by selecting options in the post numbering method.  But I have still run into instances where certain part marks are duplicated as both a small and capital letter with the same mark number.  Is there a way to select both SP for main part and SP for standalone part = Assembly No?  

It appears to be a one or the other situation.

I just realized part of my issue may be I like to start both numbering at 1, and increment by 1.

 

I'm curious if anyone else has figured out a way to keep from having different part marks for identical parts oven though there could be a combination of single, main, or stand alone parts.

 

Thank you for your help.

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iwafb
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iwafb
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There are a few things you can do...

 

Prefixes:

 

Assemblies prefixed B, C, R... so you get B1, B2, B3...

Main parts (if you want to differentiate) prefixed M, otherwise, use the same as assembly B, C, R etc, or you can even use fitting style prefixes f... We use fp for plates and fr for rolled sections

Single parts either f, fp, fr or whatever you want...

 

Numbering:

 

Start assemblies at 1 and single parts at 1000...

 

It all depends on your requirements and what you want the outcome to be...

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There are a few things you can do...

 

Prefixes:

 

Assemblies prefixed B, C, R... so you get B1, B2, B3...

Main parts (if you want to differentiate) prefixed M, otherwise, use the same as assembly B, C, R etc, or you can even use fitting style prefixes f... We use fp for plates and fr for rolled sections

Single parts either f, fp, fr or whatever you want...

 

Numbering:

 

Start assemblies at 1 and single parts at 1000...

 

It all depends on your requirements and what you want the outcome to be...

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Ignus.E
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Ignus.E
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I would agree with the above, controlling your prefixes differently and the numbering start values. But saying that I saw this as one of the fixes of Advance steel 2023 but have not tested it

  • Fixed an issue where part numbers did not correspond to the drawing numbers when both capital and small letters are used for numbering prefixes.
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I would agree with the above, controlling your prefixes differently and the numbering start values. But saying that I saw this as one of the fixes of Advance steel 2023 but have not tested it

  • Fixed an issue where part numbers did not correspond to the drawing numbers when both capital and small letters are used for numbering prefixes.

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