Here we go, manufacturing without steel included

[acbsdesign]

Received PM (as probably all of us did).

AD is still not recognizing steel as a subject of manufacturing.

Dear AD-please-put a note somewhere-steel is part of a manufacturing process.

As a matter of fact-it holds everything around that is considered manufacturing.

Michael Gustafson-can you look at this?

This is the PM:

Product Design & Manufacturing Answer Day - Coming March 24th!

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[bukko]

Advance Steel...…. Autodesk's red headed step child.  

Really sad.

[acbsdesign]

There are other things to worry about today,

but what I see is a complete ignorance at the top two floors.

[Anonymous]

its probably because Advance Steel is not part of the PD & M Collection thats why its not included in this answer day

[acbsdesign]

They did not include AS even when Revit, the bloated one, was on the list last year.

[leslie.lees]

Guys... Why are you so surprised?

The next update should tell all.

[Anonymous]

Why is this a problem? They're just merging this into Revit , right? Just get into Tekla.

[Anonymous]

Adavnce Steel, stay alive, we need you 🤔

[bukko]

Tekla does a lot of things really well..... Advance Steel's misc metals tools are so much better. That's the only reason I put up with this crap.

Craig

[acbsdesign]

Revit, The bloated one, has custom connections now.

Unbelievable.

95+% of the effort goes to Revit. 

The bloated, slow-moving one.

[Anonymous · Accepted solution]

Slow-motion like a waltz dance - then slowly roll the future.

What other functions does Revit have "borrowed" from Advance Steel?

Never say never ..... and here it is!

[acbsdesign]

There is another CAD based package that is improved and affordable, if AD doesn't retire Autocad, we are switching straight to it.

We will pay for added upgrades if necessary, but switching to Revit is not an option.

[Anonymous]

It is only a matter of time, while I have been observing the situation for a long time.

I am faced with an important decision as to which SW should be used for our transmission towers. I have no practical experience with Tekla (only tested), but I find it non-user-friendly. It looks better with Advance Steel, but you would first have to program the necessary functions for the towers. If Advance Steel disappears at some point, you are back at the beginning. Where should you focus then? Here the devil is probably interviewed 🙂

I hope we don't have to buy a Revit later and may have to pay separately for additional modules. This system now works with the other high-end CAD .... and big money is earned here.

[acbsdesign]

They must be complete idiots to retire something that costs millions and that was developed for so long to a point being one of the best packages on the market.

It does not make any sense.

Some Revit users want to do detailing, good luck to them and to fabricators putting the steel together.

But I don't think AS will be retired.

Sold to another company-may be yes- it happens every day-not a big deal.

But to be retired, no.

Not everyone likes Tekla or SDS/2 or Bocad.

[jess_neal]

@acbsdesign Which package are you talking about? Is this an Autocad based package?

[Anonymous]

hi @jess_neal ,

we are  still talking about the futere of Advance Steel 😏

[acbsdesign]

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@jess_neal wrote:

@acbsdesign Which package are you talking about? Is this an Autocad based package?

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Yes, Autocad based.

Watched a few videos and it is not bad at all. 

[Anonymous]

This is the confession of one important END USER, while each END USER is important ....

Theoretically viewed: in 2014 Autodesk bought the Advance Steel (AS) from Graitec, had almost nothing invested in the development until 2020 - rather more Graitec in the additional (depending on the conditions also free) functions for Advance Steel such as PowerPack, Stairs and railings, etc. In any case, high praise to the community that our AS still holds together. Everyone expected more from the Autodesk, definitely  a positive development.

There is also a very long list of lots of software that Autodesk has already found the end station. The reasons for this are not public, but something meaningful about the "brain processes" (if someone is still using the brain there).

In practical terms: what do you get as an END USER? Where is the added value that the customer should pay? The customer also needs certain security, not constantly losing precious money. OK, you could "believe" for a few seconds that a miracle is happening and the "inflated" Revit will break through as a very popular all-inclusive-package for END USERS. To do this, you probably need either a lot of disappointed customers / users from other SW, who will sooner or later fly over to another SW, or a completely new generation in management at Autodesk, who would listen to and understand the needs of the market and customers, and also transform the negative criticism in the potential.

Of course, a good and meaningfully functioning 3D software is always in development and therefore popular permanently in use. Why don't you do that at Autodesk? There are also fixed stars on the market where it has been working for more than 20 years and the users are very grateful / industry benefits from it (e.g. SolidWorks since 1995, CATIA since 1981, Pro/E since 1998).

A little reflexion at the end: our company preferred to develop own static program for transmissions tower, in addition there is a special interface in development that enables a complete "export & adaptation" of the predefined structural elements in a 3D software, e.g. now into the Advance Steel. From the beginning, this interface is not dependent on the end 3D software and the static program can be quickly and freely adapted to new standards / regulations at any time. This is the our way to reduce the deep dependencies on slow and unresponsive SW corporations. All we need is still our own 3D software 😃.  Fun, not doing everything yourself always makes sense, sometimes there is someone better, with with a bigger pull on the goal. And we need that. Is that just Autodesk? 

Maybe someone was listening at Autodesk all the time ...

[acbsdesign]

IMO, All this above is halve true, halve not. 

AD actually did A LOT improving AS.

I can't imagine getting back to AS2014. 

So the one who wrote it has a point, but it is not necessarily 100% consistent with the reality.

AD should be nothing but proud of having passionate users, suggesting, hard-working.

I don't think AS will be retired. 

It is such a stable software now, and modeling and detailing flies.

[bukko]

They need to focus on Erection drawing section symbols to make them professional looking, versatile and functional…… and a “one stop shop” camera management System…..

And for the LOVE OF GOD…. THE DOCUMENT MANAGER OVERHAUL!!!!!!! WTH is taking so long to do this???
How bout that anchor bolt macro??????

And here we go again…….