Hats only, No Cowboys

[acbsdesign]

HAT No. 1:

Hi Devs,

Sometimes cap plates or base plates have beams running not at 90 degrees, and the default dimensions do not work:

Column dwg style, end plates from inside:

I see one other my suggestion is already implemented in AS, Thank you.

SP Plate dimensions-Improved Dimension Requests 

Thank you.

[acbsdesign]

HAT No. 1:

Hi Devs,

Sometimes cap plates or base plates have beams running not at 90 degrees, and the default dimensions do not work:

Column dwg style, end plates from inside:

I see one other my suggestion is already implemented in AS, Thank you.

SP Plate dimensions-Improved Dimension Requests 

Thank you.

[bigcarl5000kg]

@acbsdesign,

Ilko great, I appreciate your work.

[bigcarl5000kg]

@acbsdesign,

Ilko great, I appreciate your work.

[acbsdesign]

The funny part is not only Graitec's and AD's negligence, it is some of the users who don't say anything.

"Let me work on this project as long as I can, and let me get my paycheck on Friday, quietly existing. Nicely comfortable sitting at my desk, why bother pointing out what is wrong? Better keep my hands clean. Let someone else do the dirty work. I will fix my dancing dimensions after an update, and reposition labels after an update, who cares if my employer pays more than expected? Oh, wait, I am no longer employed, I am on my own now, but STILL it is better not to say something, to be that nice guy. Not to be a TROUBLEMAKER."

[acbsdesign]

The funny part is not only Graitec's and AD's negligence, it is some of the users who don't say anything.

"Let me work on this project as long as I can, and let me get my paycheck on Friday, quietly existing. Nicely comfortable sitting at my desk, why bother pointing out what is wrong? Better keep my hands clean. Let someone else do the dirty work. I will fix my dancing dimensions after an update, and reposition labels after an update, who cares if my employer pays more than expected? Oh, wait, I am no longer employed, I am on my own now, but STILL it is better not to say something, to be that nice guy. Not to be a TROUBLEMAKER."

[bigcarl5000kg]

@acbsdesign,

AD has a different interest than AS, it is a very popular SW, starting with R and ending with T. In the middle stands a technology partly taken over from AS.

[bigcarl5000kg]

@acbsdesign,

AD has a different interest than AS, it is a very popular SW, starting with R and ending with T. In the middle stands a technology partly taken over from AS.

[acbsdesign]

AD needs AS. Otherise will end up trailing by a lot the competition. Not a decent detailer is using Revit for main detailing software if we don't count a few engineering companies willing to do detailing. what kind of detailing they are doing we can only guess, but they pay and they exist, though in very small numbers.

I find it also so shameful lack of communication between AD and users.

I have heard from AD two times this fall-"it is time to renew subscription" in both cases.

I mean, from resellers.

Not from AD.

They are busy.

Building the future of the future.

They don't deal with less important, simple users.

[acbsdesign]

AD needs AS. Otherise will end up trailing by a lot the competition. Not a decent detailer is using Revit for main detailing software if we don't count a few engineering companies willing to do detailing. what kind of detailing they are doing we can only guess, but they pay and they exist, though in very small numbers.

I find it also so shameful lack of communication between AD and users.

I have heard from AD two times this fall-"it is time to renew subscription" in both cases.

I mean, from resellers.

Not from AD.

They are busy.

Building the future of the future.

They don't deal with less important, simple users.

[acbsdesign]

HAT No.2

Hi Devs,

Please fix also MP default dwg style for angle bracing.

1. Holes are laid-out from the corner where the other leg begins, not to a free edge.

2. Dimensions at MP right end along Y (Y bottom) should be below, not above.

3. Along X-dim hole to right end.

Thank you.

[acbsdesign]

HAT No.2

Hi Devs,

Please fix also MP default dwg style for angle bracing.

1. Holes are laid-out from the corner where the other leg begins, not to a free edge.

2. Dimensions at MP right end along Y (Y bottom) should be below, not above.

3. Along X-dim hole to right end.

Thank you.

[acbsdesign]

HAT No.3

Hi devs,

Please also fix the Tube bracing dwg style:

This is more complicated, but it has to be done so all users can save time detailing it:

Bracing Front

Bracing Top and Bottom:

Thank you.

[acbsdesign]

HAT No.3

Hi devs,

Please also fix the Tube bracing dwg style:

This is more complicated, but it has to be done so all users can save time detailing it:

Bracing Front

Bracing Top and Bottom:

Thank you.

[acbsdesign]

I included a few screenshots of dim requests, any better ideas are welcome.

[acbsdesign]

I included a few screenshots of dim requests, any better ideas are welcome.

[s_hannemann]

I think most of us are busy learning new CAD-Software right now 🙂

AS looks like a dead end to me. So much potential but no improvements in sight. It just gets even worse for us. I have crashes in combination with special parts in 2022 and 2023. Just hoping the best for 2024 Version...

[s_hannemann]

I think most of us are busy learning new CAD-Software right now 🙂

AS looks like a dead end to me. So much potential but no improvements in sight. It just gets even worse for us. I have crashes in combination with special parts in 2022 and 2023. Just hoping the best for 2024 Version...

[acbsdesign]

@s_hannemann 

What new software.

AS is not dead.

No one kills a software with half or a million and more hours in development.

They all say they are better, ending up just the same only either more expensive or lacking the AS flexibility.

To say AS is dead it is premature.

AD is a great company after all.

[acbsdesign]

@s_hannemann 

What new software.

AS is not dead.

No one kills a software with half or a million and more hours in development.

They all say they are better, ending up just the same only either more expensive or lacking the AS flexibility.

To say AS is dead it is premature.

AD is a great company after all.

[s_hannemann]

I have to use HiCad from ISD. Good performance and license management. I miss my drawing styles but the modeling is okay. New software always clumsy at the beginning. We need better performance and visualisation for our projects. AS cant handle large models with steel structures and mechanical components like engines, clutches and so on.

We tried the combination Inventor with AS but it is annoying as hell. AD has 50 different products and we lost track. In addition the license policy is not good.

[s_hannemann]

I have to use HiCad from ISD. Good performance and license management. I miss my drawing styles but the modeling is okay. New software always clumsy at the beginning. We need better performance and visualisation for our projects. AS cant handle large models with steel structures and mechanical components like engines, clutches and so on.

We tried the combination Inventor with AS but it is annoying as hell. AD has 50 different products and we lost track. In addition the license policy is not good.

[acbsdesign]

@s_hannemann 

Hi, Are you sure you would prefer that HiCag thing and not use AS?

Watched their video about the "press of the button" BS-I told you, they all say the same.

BUT-their assembly did not have holes in the web dimensioned, and not only there.

Just as an example, Clowns are everywhere-keep your eyes open before buying.

If it is going to come from your personal finances, of course.

Otherwise-I would buy a Maserati first.

Color-Exterior-Black.

Interior-Espresso.

[acbsdesign]

@s_hannemann 

Hi, Are you sure you would prefer that HiCag thing and not use AS?

Watched their video about the "press of the button" BS-I told you, they all say the same.

BUT-their assembly did not have holes in the web dimensioned, and not only there.

Just as an example, Clowns are everywhere-keep your eyes open before buying.

If it is going to come from your personal finances, of course.

Otherwise-I would buy a Maserati first.

Color-Exterior-Black.

Interior-Espresso.

[acbsdesign]

HAT No.4:

Hi @bigcarl5000kg 

Quarter finals and between.

I did also slightly improve the beam section dwg style-labels placement- overall time for adjustments. 1-2 seconds here, and there and by the end of the project seconds become hours.

W16 beam (W400)-Very average size, scale 1 1/2"=1'-0" -the most-common for beams up to W18.

W24 (W600), same scale:

My Labeling strategy:

1. Shear Plates:

2. Slotted Holes:

3. Weld Symbols:

Any other ideas are welcome.

If you are not busy learning that HiThing software, of course.

HiThinPressaButtonandLoughMAGIC!!!LOL

LOL

[acbsdesign]

HAT No.4:

Hi @bigcarl5000kg 

Quarter finals and between.

I did also slightly improve the beam section dwg style-labels placement- overall time for adjustments. 1-2 seconds here, and there and by the end of the project seconds become hours.

W16 beam (W400)-Very average size, scale 1 1/2"=1'-0" -the most-common for beams up to W18.

W24 (W600), same scale:

My Labeling strategy:

1. Shear Plates:

2. Slotted Holes:

3. Weld Symbols:

Any other ideas are welcome.

If you are not busy learning that HiThing software, of course.

HiThinPressaButtonandLoughMAGIC!!!LOL

LOL

[acbsdesign]

HAT No.5-THIS ONE IS IMPORTANT:

I will also mention-overall dimensions for shear plates, especially for the extended shear plates along Y are not required. Same for stiffeners. They have no meaning because they fit within the flanges.

And approver may get some sparks flying or says why this dim does not match the real distance between the inner faces of the flanges.

Then we have to explain to the hat only no cowboy thing that there is installation tolerance, milling tolerance etc and UNLESS a tight fit or mill to bear is required, it will be better for them to hang that hat somewhere and...we know what.

[acbsdesign]

HAT No.5-THIS ONE IS IMPORTANT:

I will also mention-overall dimensions for shear plates, especially for the extended shear plates along Y are not required. Same for stiffeners. They have no meaning because they fit within the flanges.

And approver may get some sparks flying or says why this dim does not match the real distance between the inner faces of the flanges.

Then we have to explain to the hat only no cowboy thing that there is installation tolerance, milling tolerance etc and UNLESS a tight fit or mill to bear is required, it will be better for them to hang that hat somewhere and...we know what.

[bigcarl5000kg]

I know that your knowledge and skills are at a higher level than the equivalent in AS. Unfortunately, it won't save this one. Nevertheless, many thanks for your daily struggle, perhaps sometimes with windmills 😉. Don't rest on your laurels, the only constant in the universe is the change. Have a nice start into new work week a stay ... tuned for (more) better future. Maybe one day at some nice lake, we'll find out that it was a game about us... (AD he can continue to rest on his laurels)

[bigcarl5000kg]

I know that your knowledge and skills are at a higher level than the equivalent in AS. Unfortunately, it won't save this one. Nevertheless, many thanks for your daily struggle, perhaps sometimes with windmills 😉. Don't rest on your laurels, the only constant in the universe is the change. Have a nice start into new work week a stay ... tuned for (more) better future. Maybe one day at some nice lake, we'll find out that it was a game about us... (AD he can continue to rest on his laurels)

[acbsdesign]

@bigcarl5000kg 

No, No struggle, but some things are real PIN, but it is what it is.

There are 2 defaults in MT, MIN distance for labels, and Label tag to edge end, I called them MT1 and MT2. MT1 is at 3/16", MT2 is at 1/16".

Yes, we don't have to stop improving. 

Some things are a real PIN though...what prevails where and why.

Weld over dimension?

Strange.

It should be dimension prevails over the label.

Welds push dimensions away. Really?

This is what the Graitec thing had in mind?

You have a good start of the week too! 

Someone posted online that this phrase is archaic in English.

I don't believe the specialists and I will use  it.

LOL

[acbsdesign]

@bigcarl5000kg 

No, No struggle, but some things are real PIN, but it is what it is.

There are 2 defaults in MT, MIN distance for labels, and Label tag to edge end, I called them MT1 and MT2. MT1 is at 3/16", MT2 is at 1/16".

Yes, we don't have to stop improving. 

Some things are a real PIN though...what prevails where and why.

Weld over dimension?

Strange.

It should be dimension prevails over the label.

Welds push dimensions away. Really?

This is what the Graitec thing had in mind?

You have a good start of the week too! 

Someone posted online that this phrase is archaic in English.

I don't believe the specialists and I will use  it.

LOL

[acbsdesign]

HAT NO.6

Beam end plates from outside:

1. Edge distance is missing the last hole to the edge.

2. The overall size of the plate is missing.

3. Weld details that all show something behind?....does not make sense.

[acbsdesign]

HAT NO.6

Beam end plates from outside:

1. Edge distance is missing the last hole to the edge.

2. The overall size of the plate is missing.

3. Weld details that all show something behind?....does not make sense.

[acbsdesign]

HAT NO.7

Column front, top and bottom dwg styles, one level column detailed, top of the column:

If a plate is labeled on one view and if it is Front-length, then why overcrowd views with the same plate label on other views?

We have the compass on both front and top/bottom views, and if a plate is already labeled when represented Top, then IMO it is much cleaner not to label it again when Front-length.

Also-Labels for plates have to be coordinated with labels for holes.

Chose one to be the "main" or "leading", and one to be coordinated so it does not interfere with the first chosen.

Dimensions-my dimensions from the column system and column face to holes are much cleaner and work much better for multi-level columns.

Dim requests:

Labels for shear plates (attached plates) TOP

Labels for holes (slotted holes) top:

Any other suggestions-please post them here, we may come up with something better.

[acbsdesign]

HAT NO.7

Column front, top and bottom dwg styles, one level column detailed, top of the column:

If a plate is labeled on one view and if it is Front-length, then why overcrowd views with the same plate label on other views?

We have the compass on both front and top/bottom views, and if a plate is already labeled when represented Top, then IMO it is much cleaner not to label it again when Front-length.

Also-Labels for plates have to be coordinated with labels for holes.

Chose one to be the "main" or "leading", and one to be coordinated so it does not interfere with the first chosen.

Dimensions-my dimensions from the column system and column face to holes are much cleaner and work much better for multi-level columns.

Dim requests:

Labels for shear plates (attached plates) TOP

Labels for holes (slotted holes) top:

Any other suggestions-please post them here, we may come up with something better.

[acbsdesign]

HAT NO.8

SP Folded beam/plate. This must be some kind of a joke. 

Really?

[acbsdesign]

HAT NO.8

SP Folded beam/plate. This must be some kind of a joke. 

Really?

[bigcarl5000kg · Accepted solution]

Puppets ... we are in the hands of a puppeteer whom we cannot see - we cannot hear 

[bigcarl5000kg · Accepted solution]

Puppets ... we are in the hands of a puppeteer whom we cannot see - we cannot hear