Concrete Fill for Frame: Volume Calculation

[Jonathan.CharltonE35Y2]

Hello,

Specs:
Advance Steel 2022 for Windows 10, 64bit;
Product Version 26.0.605.0 Advance Steel 2022.0.3 Hotfix;
Built on: S.191.0.0 AutoCAD 2022.1.5

Question:

Is it possible to subtract the shapes of profiles/plates from a concrete slab that encases them?

I have a pump frame that will be filled with concrete after installation on-site, and I'm trying to show in my model what that concrete would look like and how much it will weigh.
Thank you in advance for your time and input.

Please see attached .dwg for example.

[Flies-Eyes · Accepted solution]

The short answer is yes, this is possible. The long answer is it could take a while to set up your system to achieve this requirement.

We moved away from using the 'Concrete Objects'  to model concrete elements some time ago in favour of using plate elements to model concrete objects. This gave us far better control over numbering, assemblies, single parts and BOMS.

Below are some screen grabs of how our Advance Steel system handles concrete BIM data.

Concrete Assembly Drawing

Concrete Single Part Drawing    

Concrete BOM

I have also included a set drawings of where these concrete element drawings would sit if in a full set of drawings.  

I did a test to push your model to Revit as well.

[Jonathan.CharltonE35Y2]

@Flies-Eyes,

Thank you very much for this information>
I'll chew on this for a little while and see how it might benefit our workflows.

[Flies-Eyes]

Having another look at your original post, I used 'Concrete Precast' for the material type as I initially thought your frame was a precast mould.  Being that you call it a 'Pump Frame', I should have used our 'Concrete Insitu' prefix. We treat the data slightly differently, precast concrete the weight is more important as lifting is highly likely, whereas with Insitu Concrete, surface area is more important.