Advance Steel .ifc export

[russellb]

Has anyone managed to find a workaround for exporting an Advance Steel model to .ifc?

This is an ongoing problem and Autodesk continue to ignore the fact that the .ifc format is a BIM standard and is a legal requirement in some countries.

Currently, Advance Steel's built in ifc export tool doesn't provide the propoerties such as assembly mark or part mark, which makes it useless to fabricators and designers who might want to see a particular assembly in the 3d model context.

We have tried exporting to Navisworks and then using the 3rd party options to convert to ifc from there with limited success.

Has anyone managed to do an ifc export that has the following properties?

• ifc type - beam, column, plate etc
• section profile
• material
• surface treatment
• weight
• coordinates
• assembly mark / single part mark

[russellb]

Has anyone managed to find a workaround for exporting an Advance Steel model to .ifc?

This is an ongoing problem and Autodesk continue to ignore the fact that the .ifc format is a BIM standard and is a legal requirement in some countries.

Currently, Advance Steel's built in ifc export tool doesn't provide the propoerties such as assembly mark or part mark, which makes it useless to fabricators and designers who might want to see a particular assembly in the 3d model context.

We have tried exporting to Navisworks and then using the 3rd party options to convert to ifc from there with limited success.

Has anyone managed to do an ifc export that has the following properties?

• ifc type - beam, column, plate etc
• section profile
• material
• surface treatment
• weight
• coordinates
• assembly mark / single part mark

[acbsdesign]

Hi,

I export to IFC, and beams and plates are imported in Tekla with no issues,

just make sure the model you export from is numbered (do not copy and rename model only without numbering and export from it).

Have a great day.

[acbsdesign]

Hi,

I export to IFC, and beams and plates are imported in Tekla with no issues,

just make sure the model you export from is numbered (do not copy and rename model only without numbering and export from it).

Have a great day.

[russellb]

Ilko,

Are you able to show a screenshot with the assembly mark and single part mark displayed, because nobody that I speak to can achieve this.

[russellb]

Ilko,

Are you able to show a screenshot with the assembly mark and single part mark displayed, because nobody that I speak to can achieve this.

[acbsdesign]

Russell,

I do not have Tekla installed, but when I give IFC, no one has mentioned they did not get marks exported, I have to ask about this. 

[acbsdesign]

Russell,

I do not have Tekla installed, but when I give IFC, no one has mentioned they did not get marks exported, I have to ask about this. 

[Sebastian_Eiche]

Has anyone managed to do an ifc export that has the following properties?

Not all Informations, but If I create an IFC file and have look in a viewer, the most things could be find. The only things I could not find is weight and assembly part mark:

[Sebastian_Eiche]

Has anyone managed to do an ifc export that has the following properties?

Not all Informations, but If I create an IFC file and have look in a viewer, the most things could be find. The only things I could not find is weight and assembly part mark:

[Sebastian_Eiche]

maybe additional. By importing the ifc file the singlepart number will not automatic be assigned to the singlepart information. I made some tests and will come back

[Sebastian_Eiche]

maybe additional. By importing the ifc file the singlepart number will not automatic be assigned to the singlepart information. I made some tests and will come back

[russellb]

I find that different .ifc viewers are having different results, however none of them show all the properties in my original post.

The assembly mark and weight are two of the most important properties that my customers wish to see in the ifc model, as they use the model for erection/installation. 

I also didn't notice any surface treatment in your screenshot. Have you managed to get this to show up?

[russellb]

I find that different .ifc viewers are having different results, however none of them show all the properties in my original post.

The assembly mark and weight are two of the most important properties that my customers wish to see in the ifc model, as they use the model for erection/installation. 

I also didn't notice any surface treatment in your screenshot. Have you managed to get this to show up?

[Sebastian_Eiche]

You're this is not showing too. The result of the viewer is not interesting, it's interesting what is written in the file. 

The problem with the weight is, that this is a calculated value. The volume and the information if the material should be enough for software. For all other information there could be extra BOM lists for example. The result of IFC is definitely (sad  but true) not the best file format of Advance Steel.

[Sebastian_Eiche]

You're this is not showing too. The result of the viewer is not interesting, it's interesting what is written in the file. 

The problem with the weight is, that this is a calculated value. The volume and the information if the material should be enough for software. For all other information there could be extra BOM lists for example. The result of IFC is definitely (sad  but true) not the best file format of Advance Steel.

[Delusory]

Unfortunately AS2019 nor AS2020 exports such info as Assembly Mark or weight. It does not export Assemblies as Assemblies. Previous version (AS2016) used to export this information, but could not export bolts (that is, there were no bolts shown, only holes). No you get to see bolts, but no Assembly Marks. The ifc file has no information about this. 

[Delusory]

Unfortunately AS2019 nor AS2020 exports such info as Assembly Mark or weight. It does not export Assemblies as Assemblies. Previous version (AS2016) used to export this information, but could not export bolts (that is, there were no bolts shown, only holes). No you get to see bolts, but no Assembly Marks. The ifc file has no information about this. 

[markhubrich]

Try this utility to get deep examination of what is in your IFC exports..  https://s3.amazonaws.com/nist-el/building_software/IFA-2.72.zip

Here's more info 

https://www.nist.gov/services-resources/software/ifc-file-analyzer

[markhubrich]

Try this utility to get deep examination of what is in your IFC exports..  https://s3.amazonaws.com/nist-el/building_software/IFA-2.72.zip

Here's more info 

https://www.nist.gov/services-resources/software/ifc-file-analyzer

[abeeler]

That NIST IFC analyzer is super cool!

[abeeler]

That NIST IFC analyzer is super cool!