Add View name to a drawing

[george1985]

Dear Advance Steel colleagues,

Every time I make a beam/plate single part drawing, it shows a 'Part Mark' above each view.
Is it possible to get a text:
"Front" or "Top" or "Bottom" instead of this Part Mark text?

I can double click on the Part Mark text for each view, and manually replace it with "Front"/"Top"/"Bottom". But it gets a bit tedious, because I have to do it for every single part drawing, and every view:

I would be grateful for any kind of help.

[Flies-Eyes]

I am yet to find a good solution to solve that limitation.  My current strategy is just to forego the individual views titles and just have the Assembly View Title.  

Another option we tried is just to have the text for each of the 3 titles in the prototype and move that to the view.  Again, this is still not ideal and not automated.

[george1985]

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@Flies-Eyes wrote:

Another option we tried is just to have the text for each of the 3 titles in the prototype and move that to the view.  Again, this is still not ideal and not automated.

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Thank you very much for the useful reply @Flies-Eyes !
About this upper quote: is it really possible to control the number of beam views in the single part drawings?
Because what I have experienced up until now, is that AdvanceSteel checks if there is a cutout or a bolt hole or some other feature seen in particular view. And if there isn't, it just shows the "Front" view of the beam, and that's it.

[Sebastian_Eiche · Accepted solution]

there's a wayl...but not the best one 😃
If you create a detail of an element, you will have different views.
In general, you have the main title so you don't need a label for the element itself in the single views.
And here's the workaround:

• create different label rules with not token but the content "front", "top" and so on as pure text
• now you need to create new object presentation views for each view, because you cpould not use the dame rule for every single detail. result is: an object presentation for "beam front", "beam top" and so on
• by having this, you could define different label strategies for the same object (beam) in differen views
• now you define the label strategy "Beam front" to the view "beam front"
• if ,you set your arranger control for the label strategy to "top" and Area percent to maybe 20% this label will be placed in the top of the view in the "middle"

Example pics:

Result by adding as example "Front" and "Top":

[Flies-Eyes]

That's a clever system hack for sure.

[Flies-Eyes]

Yes, it is possible to force output to have all 3 views, no matter if there is no feature presentation.  It is managed via the Necessary View Wizard.

[george1985]

Thank you very much for the detailed reply @Sebastian_Eiche !

I can't make it work.
When I change the "Labeling" in "Object presentation" of the "Sp Beam - Front", it automatically changes is to all other views (like "Top" for example).

So when I change it here:

I automatically updates the same version in the "Top" view:

I don't know how to make "Front" view Labeling independent from "Top" one.

[Flies-Eyes]

You would need to create a Presentation Rule for each View type.

[Sebastian_Eiche]

that's what I wanted to show in my second point: create a new object presentation rule for each view

[george1985]

Thank you very much!
Both @Flies-Eyes  and @Sebastian_Eiche 

Another problem I have is that, the textual value which I change in the "Labeling strategy" is always changed for all Beam Labeling strategies.

For example, if I change the text in "Front" Labeling strategy:

It will automatically be changed in "Top" Labeling strategy as well:

And vice-versa: if I change it in "Top", it will automatically be changed in "Front" Labeling strategy.
I am not sure what am I doing wrong.

[Sebastian_Eiche]

you need to create a new content label for this. If you don't copy this for each strategy, alls your detailstyles are changed now.

There're a few youtube video from autodesk to the detailstyle maanger...please have a look at first to them. To change detail styles without a bit of knowledge could destroy a lot 😃

[george1985]

Thank you very much @Sebastian_Eiche !
I created a new "Front" and "Top" Labeling strategies as you showed - and now it work!
For some reason, I had to restart Advance Steel to make it work.

Thank you for all the shared knowledge and patience.

[george1985]

I have one more question: For all beams, I would always like to have a third view "from the left side".
And that third view would have "Left side" leader, the same way right now there are "Top" and "Front" view leaders.

@Flies-Eyessuggested I should use "Necessary View Wizard".
I opened a new topic about this here.
I would be grateful for any kind of help regarding this new issue.

[xscad-083]

This could have been added in future updates, the workaround for this will take a lot of time. The label for the main part also won't be available...