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Strange rendering of a transparent glass material in Arnold

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AnimationSB
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Strange rendering of a transparent glass material in Arnold

I am encountering a rendering issue I can't really explain in Max2020 using Arnold. I will try to use screenshots to explain better, since I don't really understand what exactly is happening in my test renders.

 

I have a car model, and currently set the material for the headlight's glass to a glass type semi transparent Standard Surface. It is a reflective material with 0.6 for transmission

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This is how the material looks when I test render. I tried to take screenshots from different angles to illustrate it better. It seems to be having an Xray kind of effect, as I end up seeing a bit of the other headlight from the inside, or extra thru the entire car into the black BG.

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Thing is... if i move the "glass" element up, it works right when next to the other parts of the car. It renders as a semi transparent clear glass

 

It seems it is only rendering strangely when next to the interior headlight mesh. The glass and the interior both render correctly when separated.

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CiroCardoso3v
in reply to: AnimationSB

Do you have enough rays on Ray Depth for transmission? Also, if you use a Transmission of 1, what is the result?

Lead Enviroment Artist @Axis Studios

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Ciro Cardoso

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AnimationSB
in reply to: CiroCardoso3v

I am not familiar with Ray Depth? Is it the depth here in the transmission options?

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It is exactly the same as with transmission one. I actually lowered the transparency so I could show it working when next to the other parts of the car

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It will be hard to see the glass element when I raise it up with a full transparency. But its there, rendering correctly if next to the hood/windshield, just not when against the headlights interior.

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Its really bothering me because I have another model with pretty much the same material settings and mesh, and this one works with no problem

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CiroCardoso3v
in reply to: AnimationSB

Is there any chance you can send me just the glass geometry? 

Lead Enviroment Artist @Axis Studios

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AnimationSB
in reply to: CiroCardoso3v

max file attached below

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AnimationSB
in reply to: CiroCardoso3v

okay so I cant really explain what happened, but when I detached the element from the whole mesh, it worked!

this is the glass as a separate object, and its rendering correctly.

the other glass is still attached to the main mesh, and still renders incorrectly

 

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It solves the problem for this model, but doesn't really reveal the problem.

The other car model, the glass elements where attached to the main mesh, but rendered okay.

 

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CiroCardoso3v
in reply to: AnimationSB

That was my idea, that it was related to the geometry. You could compare the two cars and see how the geometry is different. 

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CAMedeck
in reply to: AnimationSB

Try giving the glass a thickness.  I think that when it is attached to the car geometry, Max is treating it as a volume instead of a thin surface.  So you're getting some extra refraction, like looking through a drinking glass full of water and what's behind is distorted.  Or maybe having it as a separate element, not welded to the rest of the model but still attached, would work.

Chris Medeck
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