I had a user ask whether it was possible to modify the "As Indicated" note that appears on a Sheet if there are multiple scales present.
This Scale parameter value is hard coded and cannot be modified.
If it is necessary to have the text display something else, a Shared Parameter could be added and the notes entered manually. You could have two different title blocks - one for set scales and one for multiple so you only manually enter the information into those detail sheets.
If anyone else handles this differently, feel free to update the thread!
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I beg your pardon, but hard coding anything that involves composition is a gross error. The user needs to be in control of all composition. Ask your own graphic desginers what they would say about not having the ability to control letter case. There needs to be user control of what this text parameter evaluates to without having to resort to alternative methods.
aksaks wrote:
I beg your pardon, but hard coding anything that involves composition is a gross error. The user needs to be in control of all composition. Ask your own graphic desginers what they would say about not having the ability to control letter case. There needs to be user control of what this text parameter evaluates to without having to resort to alternative methods.
The shared parameter solution offered is the way the user can control what is displayed. The "scale" parameter associated with sheets is something defined at the system level. If all views on a sheet are the same scale the value will resolve with the scale the view/views use. If the views have different values it changes to "as indicated". By controling this at the system level it prevents coordination errors from occuring.
If you need control over this value you just add a shared parmeter to the sheet and remove the "scale" label and replace it with a label that reads the shared parameter. This way the user will have full control over the value.
Old - http://wikihelp.autodesk.com/Revit/enu/2012/Help/Revit_User's_Guide/2654-Tools_an2654/2872-Paramete2872/2873-Shared_P2873
Edit - 2021: Shared Parameters
This link has a series of videos on making a custom title block. The 3rd video specifically covers adding shared parameters to a titleblock.
http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/item?siteID=123112&id=13945669
My solution was to create the shared parameter to the sheet, and then, in the titleblock family, add a label to display this parameter, and, paramaters to toggle the visibility of either the automatic scale value or the shared parameter.
My problem with the "As indicated" value is that our working language is not English. Is there anywhere I can go and change the text to substitute it with an appropriate message in my own language? These occasional English messages (together with the question marks in tags for missing parameters) look rather unprofessional.
Anssi
I've read posts and past posts regarding this issue and there are a few legitimate reasons for graphic control over this item. I am questioning the lower case of the text. If the majority of the users of this program have uppercase text why is the default lower case. Until this is explained why this cannot be corrected, it will be a problem. Why not change the case to upper case? Is this a hard thing to acheive? It should have been defaulted to upper case anyways. I agree with the hard coding, minus the case and language issues.
Thanks,
Jesse
No matter what they do, it will be wrong to many people somewhere, unless it is user-controlled. I think that they should incorporate a project setting similar to the "SPARE" label for electrical panel schedules in Revit MEP. There is a simple setting, as per the image below.
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@kathryn.langan wrote:"If it is necessary to have the text display something else, a Shared Parameter could be added and the notes entered manually. You could have two different title blocks - one for set scales and one for multiple so you only manually enter the information into those detail sheets."
To expand on the original message, there is no need to create separate title blocks. One merely has to create two "Yes/No" instance parameters that control the labels' Visibility. They should be inversely controlled, and the formula for the second parameter should be: " =not(first parameter) ". This has worked well for us.
Hi all,
I'm using Revit structures 2014, Is there a way to remove the scale from a view, namely a legend. I have been trying to use a legend for text notes eg. slab notes, steelwork treatment etc. but when I insert it onto a sheet (with a plan already inserted) it shows as scale 1:1 and makes the sheet scale parameter 'As Indicated'.
Is there a way to get rid of the 1:1 standard scale from the legend so that the sheet scale remains at the scale of the plan?
Hope that makes sense
Cheers
Andrew
@loboarch wrote:
The "scale" parameter associated with sheets is something defined at the system level. If all views on a sheet are the same scale the value will resolve with the scale the view/views use. If the views have different values it changes to "as indicated". By controling this at the system level it prevents coordination errors from occuring.sdfasdfasd
I understand the need to "control" this at the system level to prevent coordination errors, which is precisely why setting up a title block that overrides the scale setting is wrong. The problem is not that multiple scales cause a text value to display in lieu of a drawing scale value; the problem is that the end user has no control over what that text says. I do not want to have the end user responsible for remembering to change the title block or toggle a visibility state, I want the "coordinated" automatic feature provided, with the ability to set the text value that gets displayed to match my firm's standards (which would be "AS NOTED", not "As Indicated").
Adding a system-created project parameter that would hold the text to be displayed would preserve the coordination-error-prevention qualities of the current setup, while avoiding the impossibility of having one, hard-coded text string satisfying all user's formatting and language requirements. And while I have no idea what the magnitude of the task actually is, as I remain blissfully ignorant of the inner "black box" workings of the Revit code, I find it hard to believe that setting up such a project parameter and redirecting the scale value to that in lieu of the current hard-coded text would be difficult or break anything else in the process.
I concur with much of the above stated opinions. I found this thread while looking for the functionality that's apparently unavailable.
Ladies and Gentlemen of the Autodesk Development Team: this is not a an opportunity for a product enhancement. This is a bug.
Fix it.
Jeff, can you please please update the link to your custom title block videos???? I don't find them anymore and at one time those videos were the only clear information on how to create shared parameters, I'm looking forward to share this info with more people.
Speaking about this forum's topic, I have the need to show the "As Indicated" scale parameter in Spanish!! So I did this blog entry, check it out to see my step by step proposal: http://revit-windsurfer.blogspot.mx/2014/12/scale-as-indicated-in-different-language.html
@Eduardo2012 wrote:
Jeff, can you please please update the link to your custom title block videos???? I don't find them anymore and at one time those videos were the only clear information on how to create shared parameters, I'm looking forward to share this info with more people.
Speaking about this forum's topic, I have the need to show the "As Indicated" scale parameter in Spanish!! So I did this blog entry, check it out to see my step by step proposal: http://revit-windsurfer.blogspot.mx/2014/12/scale-as-indicated-in-different-language.html
Those videos have been removed. They had become quite dated. I am currently (actually this week) working on new videos showing the use of shared parameters. I will try to remember to update this thread once they are posted.
So Jeff, have you updated your custom title block and/or shared parameter videos? They were fabulous I hope you can share them with us again!!
assume that it does not say "As indicated" in the Chinese version of Revit? So this text setting is no more hard coded than the rest of the interface. As solution as the one described by the MEP guy seems like an obvious solution.
Hello, has this bug been fixed yet? Along with some of the previous posts, our firm's standards are "AS NOTED" instead of the hard-coded text, when multiple views are on a sheet.
Thanks
There has been no change to this behavior since thread was first posted.
this is another instance of Revit not following it's own logic. We can define the term used for details that reference other details (SIM. or sim or ??). As shown above we can choose options for electrical panels and spaces. I'm sure there's others…
Instead of telling us that we're wrong to want this and offering yet another hack that breaks the BIM-y-ness of the program you should be listening to us and fix the bug. This reminds me of the arguments we used to hear against being able to align views to the same place on different sheets.
Bump!
Loving the lack of activity on this issue. Is there a tick box in the viewport properties that stops it being listed in the page scale?
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