did something change in 2013 as far as the way surfaces are displayed in an idw? the surfaces always always had to be "included" in a idw view. now they come in as regular geometry.
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I have the same problem.
(http://forums.autodesk.com/t5/Autodesk-Inventor/Surfaces-visible-in-IDW/m-p/3612316#M447387)
Drawing of part (*.ipt)
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drawing of assembly (*.iam)?
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I apologize for all the weird construction features of this part it has gone through many configuration changes to get to this shape.
yeah i am detailing a machine right now and I have used surfaces for things like rolls in vee blocks for dimensioning purposes. I use to have to "include" them in a view and they came in with properties llike if you included a datum. now i have to go through every view and take them out.
@slphantom wrote:yeah i am detailing a machine right now and I have used surfaces for things like rolls in vee blocks for dimensioning purposes. I use to have to "include" them in a view and they came in with properties llike if you included a datum. now i have to go through every view and take them out.
What happened to my response?
I only saw the post where you asked me to upload the idw and part.
Hi Scott,
In 2013, we introduced design views in parts. Surface visiibility in drawings is now controlled by part design views. We apologize, its definitely a change in behavior.
Here's how you can do it.
1. Open your part file
2. Expand the view representation in the browser
3. Create a new view rep (give it some name: say "AllSurfaces")
4. Click on Surface Bodies folder and turn them off
5. Switch to drawings
6. Edit the view and select the viewrep (AllSurfacesOff)
The view should update and all surfaces should become invisible.
The behavior is just like assembly design views to control visibility of components.
Hope that works out.
Thanks
-Shiva Sundaram
Inventor Development
Hi Reg,
No problem. Hope that works out. Sorry I forgot to address you in my post.
-Shiva Sundaram
Inventor Development
so now i have an existing assembly idw and i added this part i downloaded from a vendor site and it does not show up on the idw views. how do i fix this?
Hi Scott,
Does it appear if you create a new view? If so, then you may want to check to see if the drawing view (which doesnt show the part) has Associative DV = ON (view dialog has a checkbox). If its unchecked, you click on that to make the view associative, the part should become visible by default whenever any part is added to the assembly.
OR you can re-apply design view to an existing drawing and right click context menu.
OR you can select the part from the browser and turn visibility ON (if its off)
If new drawing views also do not show that, then it might be a problem with the part and I would be happy to take a look at if you want to email it to me - sundarsATautodeskDOTcom
Thanks
-Shiva Sundaram
Inventor Development
it shows it as on in my idw browser and if i create a new view of the same it shows up. i got it to show up in other views so just that top level assy idw. i can work around it.
thanks
Hi
Back again. How do you set the view rep for Assemblies?
The parts have the surface switched off, the surfaces are not visible in the assemblies, you can't acces the suface in the assembly tree either, but yet they all come through in the IDW?
Hi Reg,
Did you try creating a drawing view with the View Representation CHECKED. The view create/edit dialog should contain a checkbox and if you click on it, it will use the view rep from the assembly document. Make sure that when you create or edit the drawing view, you select the view rep (in the list) which corresponds to the one which has surfaces off.
I know it's a little confusing and change in behavior....
Thanks and hope that helps....
-Shiva Sundaram
Inventor Development
I don't think this is just "confusing" or a "change in behaviour". This is a major addition to the work load and I cannot understand what has possessed AD to hobble its users this way.
Thanks Shiva
I will try the different workflow.
I gave the workflow a quick test, and guess what, it all worked 100%
The Assiciative check box was not ticked, on that particular drawing, I will keep you updated if find anything strange.
Applying "All surfaces" view rep is still quite painfull.
tx
We are having the same problem, we make mould tools & use the Sculpt command a lot, we copy the part to be made into various details & cut the surfaces away, every file in Inventor now has a surface visible in it, we have to turn them off in the part ipt file, this is not carried over into the assembly as it did previously, so they all have to be turned off individually in the iam file, then all the drawing views need the same doing to them regarding surface visibility.
This is making the process a lot longer & a lot more difficult to follow, can it be put back to how it used to be? we only use it as construction as I imagine a lot of other users do.
Hi Chris,
Point taken. I do agree that this is painful. We are looking to see if drawings can ignore surface visbilities and switch back to the old behavior - no ETA yet though :(. For the moment, like i said in an earlier post, the workaround is to use design views in the part to control surface visibility and turn them off prior to using them.
-Shiva Sundaram
Inventor Development.
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