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    Drafting Techniques

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    *Richardson, Randy

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    03-21-2003 04:17 AM in reply to: pipe0069
    That 800% increase is certainly stunning. I'm willing to take your word for
    it. Congratulations.
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    *Brown, Anne

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    03-21-2003 04:30 AM in reply to: pipe0069
    Gentlemen - Would you take more of this discussion to email as it
    is starting to get a bit testy. Please don't put moderators into
    the position of having to remove your posts. Thanks

    Randy Richardson wrote:
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    > That 800% increase is certainly stunning. I'm willing to take your word for
    > it. Congratulations.

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    03-21-2003 04:43 AM in reply to: pipe0069
    Oh well, Randy, it was fun while it lasted but the thought police have again mistaken "spirited" for "testy". Thanks for the time.
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    *Engdahl, Tom

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    03-21-2003 06:52 AM in reply to: pipe0069
    Isn't this:

    "I would be interested (if you're not too bored) to prove that anyone has
    ever
    increased their productivity 8 to 10 times in structural steel detailing by
    moving from boards to CAD, without (1) buying a dedicated steel detailing
    package, (2) customizing CAD, and (3) creating standard blocks."

    like saying a horse is faster than a car untill you put gas in it?
    Just a thought...


    "Randy Richardson" wrote in message
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    > I thought that my explanation made such qualifications self evident, but
    > obviously I was wrong about that. I did, as promised, stop discussing
    which
    > was faster between boards and CAD, my continued replies were to clarify
    > ambiguious points (the direct-distance entry stuff) and to answer your
    > allegations. I admit that your baiting tactics are hard to resist. As
    long
    > as you feel so strongly about making unsubstantiated assertions, though, I
    > would be interested (if you're not too bored) to prove that anyone has
    ever
    > increased their productivity 8 to 10 times in structural steel detailing
    by
    > moving from boards to CAD, without (1) buying a dedicated steel detailing
    > package, (2) customizing CAD, and (3) creating standard blocks. That
    > productivity increase is at the high end even for people who use (brand X
    > steel detailing software). And, by the way, if you can prove that, that
    > would be great.
    >
    >
    > "OLD-CADaver" wrote in message
    > news:f14fa9b.44@WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
    > > There was no substantiation, merely a description of two methods, with
    no
    > qualifications as to which is faster and why. Also, as I pointed out that
    > part of your description of one was left out of the other. And of course
    > you're bored with it, you've made a claim you can't or won't support and
    got
    > caught at it. (BTW, you can stop replying at any time, and the discussion
    > will go away.) You've decided that hand drafting is better for some
    > applications, fine, but if you use speed as the reason, expect someone to
    > call you on it.
    > >
    >
    >
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    03-24-2003 07:30 AM in reply to: pipe0069
    Wouldn't that be an increased productivity of 16-20 times over hand drafting?? (1600% to 2000%) hmmm... interesting.
    >>Tracy W. Lincoln>>By 1990 with the add-on to AutoCAD that we had, I was drawing 8-10 sheets to 1 sheet with what we were previously doing with AutoCAD and a simple menu/symbols and 16-20 sheets to what was previously was being done by hand... <<
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    *Lincoln, Tracy W.

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    03-24-2003 10:22 PM in reply to: pipe0069
    Yes... it was.

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    *Lincoln, Tracy W.

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    03-25-2003 02:10 AM in reply to: pipe0069
    Not bad for adding a $6,500 application on top of what AutoCAD cost and
    what a PC cost at that time...plus formal training.

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    Distinguished Contributor mhr
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    Re: CAD versus Hand drafting

    03-26-2003 10:23 AM in reply to: pipe0069
    Accuracy is what AutoCAD is all about. No more adding and subtracting to figure out dimensions only to get them wrong anyway. No more estimating square footages. No more inconsistant and hard to read lettering (of course people always decide to trash a drawing by using CITYBLUEPRINT font). No more erasing and changing dimensions without actually changing the drawing (except for the wannabe cad user who has no pride in their work and hack up their drawings). No more unconnected or overlapping corners (except for wannabe cad users who haven't got a clue). It basically comes down to how well you want to learn AutoCAD. If you learn it well you'll never want to compare hand drafting to CAD ever again.
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    *Crawford, W. Kirk

    Re: CAD versus Hand drafting

    03-27-2003 08:44 AM in reply to: pipe0069
    Using mylar lead had such a great felling. So smooth so sharp. Just a
    pleasure to use.
    So editing wasn't so great.

    Later
    Kirk
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    *Alexander, Dave

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    03-27-2003 09:00 AM in reply to: pipe0069
    Not as nice as ink though.

    Dave Alexander

    "W. Kirk Crawford" wrote in message
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    > Using mylar lead had such a great felling. So smooth so sharp. Just a
    > pleasure to use.
    > So editing wasn't so great.
    >
    > Later
    > Kirk
    >
    >
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