Hi,
The release of Mountain Lion is near.
And I just want to point everybody to this article in Autodesk Knowledge Base:
http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/ps/dl/item?siteID=123112&id=20109560&linkID=15839490
"AutoCAD 2013 for Mac, AutoCAD 2012 for Mac, AutoCAD LT 2013 for Mac and AutoCAD LT 2012 for Mac are currently NOT supported on the Mac OS X 10.8 (Mountain Lion) operating system.
Until such time as a service pack is available, Autodesk highly recommend NOT installing Mac OS X 10.8 (Mountain Lion) on any machines where AutoCAD 2013 for Mac, AutoCAD 2012 for Mac, AutoCAD LT 2013 for Mac, or AutoCAD LT 2012 for Mac is required."
Maxim
It's been three days since Mountain Lion has been released.
1. When Autodesk plans to allow it's customers to upgrade to a more secure and up-to-date operating system?
2. Will Autodesk finally make AutoCAD 2013 support MacBook Pro with Retina display with the upcoming OS X 10.8 compatibility update? It's been over a month since WWDC where Apple told us Autodesk will update AutoCAD for Mac with Retina support shortly...
That's quite simple. Without Retina support interface looks blurry. I can't confirm if it goes to Model space as well at the moment. Probably not since you can scale Model window to any size and it's being processed with computer's 3D architecture. Anyway such expensive piece of software should meet highest standards. ArchiCAD has been successfully updated to meet Retina standards a while ago.
same thing happenend with lion and autocad for mac 2011 if i'm correct. and the patch was called autocad for mac 2012 (a.k.a. the first usable version of autocad for mac).
mountain lion was announced on february 2012, there where like 4 developers preview. now it's out and beta programs to test a patch for acad have YET to be announced. it's... baffling, to say the least.
adobe announced creative suite from 3 to the latest and greatest 6 are fully compatible, microsoft's office 2008 and 2011 are compatible.
vectorworks 2012 and 2011 are compatible like ArchiCAD 15 and 16.
should we expect autocad 2014 for mac to fix the problems?
I've got the be honest..... I don't give a monkey's about Retina display support (or Lion for that matter).
I'd rather have a design Centre to replace the "Content" (ahem....),
I'd rather have Dynamic Blocks Editor/Author,
I'd rather have some toolbars,
I'd rather have a functional layer manager,
I'd rather have a Layer states manager,
I'd rather have a CTB editor,
I'd rather have a sensible plot dialogue,
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Retina display support doesn't even factor on what the application actually needs to get the job done properly. AutoCAD is a business application and the bottom line is I use it to make money. To me it's kind of sad that AutoDesk are getting caught up in making things pretty over making it functional and productive. Personally I measure the success of AutoCAD in the amount of time I spend using it - the less the better - I want productivity over anything else.
Having just watched the trailer for Lion, its just full of new toys I don't use.
Iphone & Ipad integration - I don't have either.
ICloud - I don't use it
Integrated Facebook, twitter..... I don't use any of them,
Imessage - I don't use it.
Notification Centre - Is this different from the red dot that pops up in the dock?
Safari - Opera? Firefox?
Dictation - What for?
Streaming to HD TV - I dont have a TV.
Gaming centre - Where do people find the time?
All toys for the home user.
Grumble, grumble..........
@David_Stacey wrote:
I've always found it humorous the product name doesn't correspond with the year of release (2013 released in early 2012?????).
At one of the ADT user groups years ago the developers where asked that question & the respose was " because that's about when you guys will actually start uising it"
@maxim_k wrote:
Sorry, I don't own new MacBook with Retina display, so I never have seen how AutoCad looks on it. As I understand you say, that the contents of Drawing area are blurted. Never thought about this....
Maxim
Well quite opposite — interface parts should be blurred. I'll receive a MacBook Pro with Retina display in a couple of days and confirm.
@Anonymous wrote:mountain lion was announced on february 2012, there where like 4 developers preview. now it's out and beta programs to test a patch for acad have YET to be announced. it's... baffling, to say the least.
should we expect autocad 2014 for mac to fix the problems?
You totally understand my point.
@raumpunkt wrote:Autocad 2013 does work with Mountain Lion so far. No Problems here.
Personally I haven't faced any report for faulty running AutoCAD under OS X 10.8. So why to open a thread with warnings and place warnings all over the web, Autodesk?
@Anonymous wrote:I've got the be honest..... I don't give a monkey's about Retina display support (or Lion for that matter).
I'd rather have .................
Retina display support doesn't even factor on what the application actually needs to get the job done properly. AutoCAD is a business application and the bottom line is I use it to make money. To me it's kind of sad that AutoDesk are getting caught up in making things pretty over making it functional and productive. Personally I measure the success of AutoCAD in the amount of time I spend using it - the less the better - I want productivity over anything else.
You're completely right on all the limitations you've mentioned. Today I'm using AutoCAD under OS X only for some quick fixes. It's so frustrating you have to keep Windows and a separate AutoCAD (I'm running Civil 3D as well) for all heavy work. Good to know I'm not alone here.
Personally I'm not using any online "social services" and hate all that "sharing" crap over the web too (as well as everything except iMessage which is pretty handy). However you're a bit off when it goes to "eye-candy" of the application. Blurry things on the screen make your eyes work harder. So that's bad for your health.
P.S. It's funny how Autodesk representatives are ignoring this thread.
I gather the blurryness is only with the Retina display & not the normal one?
My comments about eye-candy were directed at the development path in general. It seems to be part of AD trying to make it appear user friendly, when what makes it user friendly (or not) is the functionality.
I don't have a Retina diplay on my MBP and it also spends 90% of its time plugged into a 4 year old 20 inch cinema, so I'm unsure it will effect me for a few years.
Someone said this earlier but I'll confirm that AutoCAD 2013 is working fine with no problems on Mountain Lion. I have macbook pro 13" 2010 mid.
Did you upgrade or did you do a clean install of the OS?
When I upgraded from snow leopard to lion, autocad 2011 for mac (that was already installed) worked fine.
When I did a clean install and installed lion the autocad 2011 for mac installer refused to launch.
I agree with everying you're saying! But I have to say Mountain Lion and the Airplay Mirroring to the Big screen at the office makes this new OS amazing for client presentations!
Maxim,
When usign up for the beta, do they give you a free licence? Or do you have to downgrade or upgrade accordingly?
Best,
-G
No iAutocad 2013 for mac is not operating properly. Do not do the upgrade if you depend on Autocad. Inability to use certain drawing tools properly with certain ortho modes. Cant draw a vertical line with ortho on...etc Do not upgrade.
Hi Gregory,
When you sign up for testing beta versions of Service Packs, you have to own the software you want to apply these SP. If you participate in beta testing of new software, then you will receive this software (under NDA).
Maxim
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