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Joining stairs and ramps to adjacent elements

Joining stairs and ramps to adjacent elements

Allow stairs and ramps to join with floors and walls, so elements read correct in views without having to manually hide lines.

 

When modelling stairs you want to model the element as it would be typically constructed i.e. with a stair tread continuing up to the floor surface. The result of this however is that when viewed in plan the stair looks like it has an additional riser where it meet the floor. With out elements typically this would be removed by joining the elements, however with stairs and ramps this is not possible to join.

24 Comments
Christiaan_de_Wit
Enthusiast

As far as I know, you can join a stair (by component) with a floor. In a section this produces the correct representation of a notch connection. However, where the top of a notch is in fact part of the upper tread, in a floor plan the notch is withdrawn from the tread depth. It is one of the weird situations where Revit does not show what you would expect based on view properties and geometry. I would really like to see that changed!

pieter4
Advisor

I have to agree with Christiaan. We need better joining behavior between floors and stairs (especially with precast notch connections). Also, we want to join a stair with a landing of another stair (again, with the proper notch connections).

lukas-tunka
Contributor

I don’t know why, but until this day, it is impossible to join the stair to the floor. Yes, we can join the bottom of stairs but why not the upper part? If we cut the stair, we need to use the linework tool to make a “connection” between stair and floor. I think it is time to solve this strange behaviour once for all.

Anonymous
Not applicable

join stair to walls also

MichaelWSullivan
Advocate

ability to be able to properly clean join concrete stairs to concrete slabs with the same material properties.

MichaelWSullivan
Advocate

Strongly agree.....especially when detailing stairs/reinforcing in the structural model

Anonymous
Not applicable

 For the love of Steve Jobs! Please get this implemented already. It's killing me.

 

cheers,

-tomek

Anonymous
Not applicable

Wall should be able to attach to Stair bottom.

also stair top to be able to join the upper floor

Tread numbering should only for stair part visible in plan

 

pieter4
Advisor

The fewer join restrictions the better. Ideally I would be able to join a stair with anything.

 

In order of priority

 

- floors/roofs

- walls

- railings (for same reason as walls)

- other stairs

- ceilings

 

If both elements are the same material they should be no line between them (they should look like 1 object).

- generic models

 

Anonymous
Not applicable
Totally agree.

-t
Anonymous
Not applicable

On the grounds that Ramps, Stair cannot join corretly, it would be great if it is possible to join monolitic stair correctly to floor and walls,as well as their landings
Ramps-still do not join with other elemnents,it could be great to give the possibility to have complex material for
the ramps Finishes ,structure

pieter4
Advisor
Anonymous
Not applicable

especially important to join floors with stairs in order to get rid of the extra line that shows up in plan when we have a stair with "end with tread". Now contractors misread that as an extra riserline! so if we could join stair with floor and that line would go away that would be great

germanperales
Advocate

Come on, this is a must for every project.

Seychellian
Advocate

I find Revit so frustrating

Kevin.Bell
Advisor

Revit should join a stair flight to the landing seamlessly (without a line).

 

When a line is shown is incorrectly appears as a tread on plan - which is misleading.

 

Monolithic stairs join seamlessly, this functionality should apply to all stairs.

 

See image.

 

tony.harwood
Enthusiast

We accomplish that by extending the landing.

Kevin.Bell
Advisor

Yea, agreed there are workarounds, but really it should work the correct way in the first place...

@Kevin.Bell  Here are some similar Ideas. What do you think about combining one or more of these with yours?

 

Component Stair End in Landing - Autodesk Community

Join of the stair run with the landing - Autodesk Community

Joining stairs and ramps to adjacent elements - Autodesk Community

 

Thank you for your submission!

Kimberly

Kevin.Bell
Advisor

Hi Kimberly,

 

The last post - Joining stairs and ramps to adjacent elements - is the same as the one I'm suggestion, perhaps combine it with that.

 

The other posts illustrate that there is still a lot of work to be done on the stair tool in Revit!

 

Thanks.

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