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Enable tag and dimension in legend view.

Enable tag and dimension in legend view.

there is something annoying that makes many of my colleagues create a "legend" phase for just for legend purpose.

 

 

For instance, we can tag material and layers on a wall composition , but why couldn't we dimension the overall width or even tag the typeMark of the wall?

 

who use only material tag? 

115 Comments
skyeg321
Advocate

My tags work placed as a symbol under annotate tab.

sarah.freyVPSTK
Participant

Hallo Zusammen,

 

derzeit gibt es keine Beschriftungsfamilie für Legendenkomponenten.

Das wäre jedoch von großem Vorteil, um z.B. die verschiedenen Wandtypen differenzieren zu können.

 

Eine Alternative könnte eine Erweiterung des Farblegenden-Tools bieten.

Hier hat man zur Zeit lediglich Zugriff auf Raum-Parameter.

Könnten man z.B. auch Wand- oder Deckenparameter mit entsprechender Farblegende darstellen, könnten so einfach und übersichtlich Unterschiede graphisch dargestellt werden.

 

havard.leding
Contributor

16 years using Revit and 4 years since i did this post. 530 votes 63 comments and... nothing. Cant say we didnt try 😅

jdcarlingJQBC3
Enthusiast
THIS IS SO NECESSARY! I WISH THEY WOULD AT LEAST EXPLAOIN WHY IT IS SO HARD TO ADD!!!! And then figure it out LOL
SNHAHarle
Participant
We have to keep trying. This is a big one.

Trouble is Autodesk don't really listen to their users.

We are currently using design options to get round this limitation, but it's by no means ideal.

Kev_D
Collaborator

They really don't listen, but they pretend they do. They spend so much time creating new pointless platforms (AAC) that we already have (BIM 360) or acquiring new platforms (at a huge cost), but they can't fix what they already sell (at a huge cost) to the everyday consumer, that would improve daily workflows. What good is BIM when you can't do simple tasks without workarounds that disrupt BIM workflows, such as design options for this method. These are already confusing without having to explain the use of them to TAG A COMPONENT IN A LEGEND VIEW. It is not much to ask for. 

jdcarlingJQBC3
Enthusiast
Agreed I hope they hear this.! I think I may complete my career before they add something that should have been out with release 1
WM_Ron_Allen
Collaborator

Share some decorum and respect please : ) In my experience over 17 years in Revit, they do listen.  I too am frustrated by the acquisitions that suck coding resources away from Revit and 360; it isn't as easy as snapping fingers to update object-based code that interacts with a large code base (many hundreds of thousands of lines?). I've met a lot of these folks and they are busting their asses to manage this beast. You also have to consider Corporate who is miles above here which is faced with a much broader task of keeping the AEC ball rolling forward and keeping the innovations coming to be profitable. 'Autodesk has a market cap or net worth of $42.01 billion as of December 8, 2022, making it the 263rd biggest public company in the US.' That's a LOT of expensive moving parts and Revit is a small part of it.

Again granted - I too am frustrated... but the snipes are getting too personal. The forum leaders and coders are just like you and I- just their job is coding our tools every day VIA Autodesk.  They aren't slacking, and just consider there are hundreds if not thousands of suggestions to rework revit on this forum - some of which are in direct opposition to one another. Check the roadmaps to see what is coming up... https://trello.com/b/ldRXK9Gw/revit-public-roadmap

If you really want to draw attention to it - make a voting drive! Post it on Linkedin, forums, and your local intranet sites and ask folks to take a look and vote it up if they agree!

Kev_D
Collaborator

Sorry @WM_Ron_Allen, but no one mentioned the hard working individuals who work tirelessly to bring things like this to the customer, however, we are still a paying customer and our "beef" is with Autodesk, and not the daily workforce. I don't think they need a Knight in shining armor to fight their cause.

 

The evidence is clear. Basic fundamental issues are not being addressed by Autodesk, so something is wrong at the top table and changes are required from the decision makers to advance BIM software basics in order to improve the BIM process. 

In my opinion, which is just an opinion, based off observations and contributions to the industry, Autodesk do not listen to their customers. The systems in place do not work. The ideas forum needs improving. They focus on making money, and why not, its a money making company as you point out. Making that much money should allow them to hire more staff maybe. I will continue to try making a difference by sharing my frustrations here so that everyday Autodesk representatives can collect and share these frustrations up the food chain to those decision makers. I don't have all the answers, of course, but I am a paying customer who would like to see improvements. And of course, absolutely everything can't be addressed, but ideas like these that are going around for years should be looked at in more detail. Its how we operate ourselves in our own day-to-day work like. If an issue was floating around our office for this long, I would be out of a job for not fixing it.

 

Again, back to the day-to-day workforce. A similar comparison, which I was recently involved with, is that I was stuck sitting on a plane for hours due to weather. Do I blame mother nature, the crew, the airline, or the airport authority? Weather is weather, and I certainly wouldn't blame the air crew, or the airline in this case, but the airport could be blamed for not prepping the airport with adequate resources to deal with these issues. The same applies here. Our frustration is with Autodesk.

WM_Ron_Allen
Collaborator

@Kev_D - I am not saying they are saints for certain. Top leadership, as in most corporations, has gotten too far from the product to understand or see the implications of changes beyond balance sheets and a bottom line. I wonder how many coders and project managers have ideas to fix things that are ahead of schedule, and those who are just working a 9 to 5 and don't care because they are so far down the line they cannot see the top.

 

So few have a broad end to end, inside out view from now to those penultimate applications. 

 

Maybe we just need to create our own- I have thought about it for quite a while, and ways to begin democratizing data.

 

In the meantime- this is the platform we chose and these are the updates given.  All the gaps I will do my best to code and fill in with scripting, automation and AI : )

Kev_D
Collaborator

This kind of epitomizes what I am getting at..... The world's best BIM360 Idea - Autodesk Community  

Mark_Engwirda
Collaborator

Not being able to tag legend components is one of those items that is still missing, and I find this one really curious why it is still not implemented.

But let's not forget how far Revit has come along since subscription was introduced a few years ago, and there are so many features that they are really working hard on implementing.

Hopefully, more powerful and easier documentation on a broad scale will become more of a priority in the near future.

 

We need another 1000 votes

ConstantineC
Advocate

I found an Youtube video where someone is adding Multi Category Tags to a wall legend.  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_UkAzdCjEE

Is it that not possible? I am trying to do but it only works with Material Tags. 

 

Update 

I think he is tagging 2d Detail components and not Legend components?

Mark_Engwirda
Collaborator

@ConstantineC I think he is using a drafting view and calling it a "legend view" as a workaround.

I tried using mc tags in a legend view and they wouldn't tag.

ConstantineC
Advocate

@Mark_Engwirda I dont think its a drafting view. Seems to be a Wall legend view. 

I dont know how is he doing it, I placed a question in his comments, hopefully he will reply.

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fpaudet
Participant

We should be able to use cotation with a legend comonent, even with system family. 

Tags (4)
robert_ostermann
Enthusiast

Quite crazy, that something simple that should be standard functionality needs an Idea Station and is ignored for such a long time having so many votes ☹

goncalovasconcelos
Participant

Legend Component is a great tool to easily place all windows in a sheet. Still, not being able to tag by keynote those elements creates the necessity to manually place text notes and doesn´t allow a keynote legend schedule to be placed as well

rafaelsousaBNDQK
Explorer

What a brilliant idea!! I hope Autodesk takes in consideration this suggestion.

j.muntz
Participant

It would be good to also use element tag on a legend component as well! As our window and doors use element tags not keynotes

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