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Face milling Climp Option

Face milling Climp Option

If you use Climp for Face milling it always starts on one side of the part like below.

 

Face Climp Milling.png

 

Make a option availible to mill like below.

 

Face Climp Milling Option.png

19 Comments
Steinwerks
Mentor

I too wish for a Climb option that keeps the tool down. This seems far more efficient than lifting every pass.

Anonymous
Not applicable

I would like to see a cycle almost like an "adapive" cycle, but more aimed at facing, i just had a quick play and as you can see using 2D adaptive for facing gives a ugly looking path, but a consistent engagement facing cycle like my poor drawing would be nice to see.....

 

Adaptive facing.jpgFacing Cylce.jpg

Steinwerks
Mentor

Yes, something more akin to Sandvik's reccomendations:

 

d025_3_eng

This is what I've been trying to explain as the only way to have the chip thinning entry work.

Because always moving back to 1 side of the part is a lot of time wasted and both ways machining makes chip thinning useless.

So you have my vote but this is one that we cannot seem to explain the importance of to the dev team.

Put me down as another person who doesn't know why this isn't a thing yet.

kb9ydn
Advisor

#WhyDoesTheHSMFacingStategyHaveToBeSoDumb

lenny_1962
Advisor

I was at a Autodesk Featurecam, part maker and Powermill user group in Phoenix last Thursday and they showed this exact same thing as a new facing option in Partmaker.

now if you buy Featurecam ultimate, Partmaker is included and the cost is around $17500, before it would have cost you $90k for both.

being in education has its perks we had DFS, NOW DEAD, Featurecam was included, didn't like its UI,but know it is being updated to be more modern so now might be using for lathe since HSMWorks doesn't works so well for lathe.

 

guess there needs to be more collaboration between the two CAM sides of AD?

Btw. I would still want the current way to be available for surface finish reasons.

ArjanDijk
Advisor

Like the idea, but it must be clear that half of the passes have full engagement with the material

ArjanDijk
Advisor

Hmm didnt look to well, no full engagement in your method

Steinwerks
Mentor

@ArjanDijk

 

Wouldn't that be controlled by the stepover definition?

Anonymous
Not applicable

 I like this because when I'm facing graphite, any other method allows at least one edge to have chipped corners.

 

Brian

Anonymous
Not applicable
Tony, your way is usually the best. Why this hasn't been the default way of face milling from the very beginning is beyond me. Probably because straight lines are easy to program. Usually no need for any retracts either between the start and end points. This toolpath should also produce less or no burrs on the top, outside edge. I regard face milling just about the same as facing in turning - a finishing operation. But face milling could incorporate a similar constant force strategy on the face mill like adaptive clearing to be used as a roughing operation. If I had to take A LOT of material off, I'd use adaptive clearing first, then finish it ( and perhaps semi-finish it ) with a face mill. If you're working on any brittle material ( ceramic, stone, graphite ), you really must start from the outside and work your way towards the center, otherwise chipping will occur. ( Keep the workpiece material in compression! )
Anonymous
Not applicable

Any progress of this idea??  Smiley Happy

al.whatmough
Alumni
Status changed to: Under Review
 
ArjanDijk
Advisor

@al.whatmough. This is the best voted idea of the CAM idea station. I talked today to the customer that proposed this to @Marco.Takx and asked me about the status. 

 

What needs to be done to get this implemented? I think implementing this would be the best evidence that the ideastation works.

Anonymous
Not applicable

is there any update of this?

Anonymous
Not applicable

Face milling Climp Option will be good for facing wood.

Knaap
Enthusiast

No more updates? What's the deal with toolpaths like this still not being implemented after years and years.

 

This is what keeps me away from intreacting more in the HSM community with a personal account (this is works).

It sounds like ideas/worries that the community would like to see, with good arguments isn't taken serious.

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