OOTB Multiple Visibility States - SOLUTION!

[Libbya]

I have done a fair amount of thinking on how to create multiple visibility states without using the broken vis-add-eng LISP and have come up with a workaround solution!  Obviously, doing all the itterations for multiple visbility states is a bit cumbersome, but at least there IS a workaround.  See attached.

[Libbya]

No, and I doubt there ever will be.  

[jtm2020hyo]

Is there any alternative?

[Libbya]

Seriously?  The entire point of this thread you are posting in is about an alternative.

[mwwm]

Great Job! I am just wondering

1. the multiple visibility parameters in your block (dyn windows) was created by via-add-eng?

2. what is the point parameters with move action doing?

Because if I want to setup dimension on/off function, it will double all my visibility states.

*Updates: I created another double lookup bridge for dimension on/off works fine, so I guess the multiple visibility parameters is completely replaced by lookup function.

Thanks.

[mwwm]

updates: well, it seems if I turned off the dimension, then changed visibility, the dims switch will need to be reset to on and then off again,(of course, the original visibility states is what it is). It works, but not neat as creating all the visibility states? Plus, if there is more options, such as material, it will make the user experience worse? Any advice, please?

I attached the example CAD file. Thanks.

[h_s_walker]

@mwwm 

Here you go. All I did was add the dimensions to a linear scale. For "ON" the linear parameter is length 1 for "OFF" the linear parameter length is 0.00000001 so the dimensions are "still" on the drawing. They're just too tiny to see.

[mwwm]

Thanks! Interesting solution, I like it.

Although in this case, If I turned off the dimension, then the opening size got change, the dimension would come back, but the dimension switch status would keep as off, then users need to click it again.

However, I can see your way will help a lot in my other works, since the scale action can turn off all dimension for multiple visibility status, which make my work much easier!

[jtm2020hyo]

Maybe playing with layers could be another alternative

[mwwm]

Thank you for your advice. Yes, the dimension layer is always separate. I am creating a set of chained Dynamic block tools (some contain very complicated combinations), and I just try to setup a switch to solve some half mirror dimension reversed text problem (works but time consuming). The insert field to show dimension way is nice, but it needs to work with auto-regen thing. I also set up View and View port layers as alternative method, but still try to find some better solution.

Thanks for everyone's help again.

[mwwm]

"Each have 4 possible increments, no grips and move a circle that is hidden for all visibility states."

Hey Libbya,

Are the move action and hidden circle necessary? I think parameter is good enough to act as a "switch".

[Libbya]

The circles and move actions are not necessary.  The beginning of this thread was the first posting of the concept when I initially invented it.  If you look later in the thread, I demonstrate some various refinements to the technique, including eliminating the move actions and circles.  I also switch to using point parameters which reduce the number of parameters necessary because the point parameters allow independent X and Y values and so can be used as memory for two separate selection inputs.  

[mwwm]

Nice ideas. Thanks for explaining. I checked your windows DYN file. Can I know how you made the multiple visibility parameters there? 

Thanks.

[drawingsJCAXD]

Question if anyone can help. I'm trying my best to get my head around all these alternatives that i can't seem to get it right for the type of dynamic block i'm building.

I'm trying to create a dynamic block where you have a drop down list with a reversed list of multiple options. I'm creating a block of different steel beam sizes.

I can make basic dynamic blocks with actions, but getting it to work with a list within a list is dumbfounding.

Thanks in advance.

[laughlin_william]

Can this method be used to control the visibility states of a dynamic block inside another dynamic block that has multiple visibility states itself?

[h_s_walker]

@laughlin_william No it can't control another dynamic block within another dynamic block. It will only work with the current dynamic block

[laughlin_william]

I figured that was the case but thought I would ask. There are so many things I would like to do with this software but I keep running into walls like that. Don't get me wrong it's great but some improvements could make it even better. 

[alexandre_potvinMWSF3]

Hey there, i try my best to remove the "Custom" option in the lookup table. But i'm not able to do it! 

Everything work good, exept for that custom option. All the entry in the lookup table fit, i dont know why it appear! 

It cause me some trouble when i insert the block! The default option is "custom-custom" and the block doesnt work when it insert with this setting. I've got to put both lookup table on "Interrupteur - Interrupteur" first and then the block work.

Do you know how to remove the costum option OR set the default option in insertion to "Interrupteur-Interrupteur"?