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Thin client enhancement to better support item control

Thin client enhancement to better support item control

I have a request for an enhancement to the thin client in Vault Professional 2022.  2022 released a new thin client design and one of the thing that changed is the way it handles items controlling files.  The requirement for some companies is to limit the users' access to files directly, only wanting them to access files through the items.  In the old thin client design, we do accommodate this by configuring to only show released items and to only show released files.  In this way, users could not see files directly (no lifecycle control is applied to the files themselves) but if you viewed a released item, you could view the attached files and could view the file itself.  

In the new design, if we only display released files, the item does not show any attachments (since files do not have direct lifecycle control).  The only way to see files at all is to turn off 'only show released files', but this then makes files visible directly at the file level, and allows users to see the files at the current version, which could be a work in progress state of the item.  

It would be very beneficial to support the viewing of non-released files through the item attachment, as this would better support the viewing of files that are controlled by items.

6 Comments
Senthil_Kumar
Autodesk
Status changed to: Gathering Support

Hi @mark.cloyed Thanks for posting this idea. If we give an admin option to disable Files workspace , is that OK for this request? 

mark.cloyed
Collaborator

Hi @Senthil_Kumar If the client is strictly using items, that would be fine.  In my case, with the current client, I foresee them using some small portion of files controlled by file release management, in that they will have some files that will not be controlled by items and will therefore be in a file-based release management.  In that case, disabling the Files workspace will not allow them to access those files, am I right?  Just something to consider...

Thanks,
Mark

Senthil_Kumar
Autodesk
Hi Mark,

Got your point. We are discussing on the possible solutions. We will come back to you once we have some designs. Please stay tuned. Thanks again.
Gene.R
Advocate

This is very important to our company also,  we need the shop floor to continue accessing the previous Released item revision while the tip version is work in progress. We would like to be able to restrict access to the current work in process state making it's way thorough another ECO.

Hunteil
Collaborator

I can see there's no reply on this yet. My company also has file workflows and Item workflows... We're trying to convert back to Item Master for the BOM configurations due to lack of ERP. Anyways the workaround we have is to apply the lifecycle to the files too... Then we had to purchase a extra license & setup a VM to get job processor to detect item state changes and force the change to match from item to files... This is working. But not the best solution b/c it requires the job processor to trigger and takes time and the user may out pace the job processor if they go too fast. We also have the job processor doing some other things at the same time to make it more worthwhile. But it's not a built it feature at this moment.

 

I think Thin client needs some TLC from Autodesk for things like this and other unfinished business like: https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/vault-ideas/vault-thin-client-eco-adjust-cell-size-options-alt-text/i...

ihayesjr
Community Manager
Status changed to: Implemented

Implemented in 2022.3 Update and 2023.1 Update

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