shifted column on retaining wall

shifted column on retaining wall

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shifted column on retaining wall

me1205377
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Greetings,  please advice on the following case 

i have a retaining wall that carry a column  starting from ground floor , the column is shifted 5 cm from the centre of the wall and i want to make this in my model.

 so is this is the best way to model it ?  or should i make the column start from the bottom of the retaining wall? is a one rigid link between 2 nodes is enough to mimic the real case or more rigid links are needed ?

Also regarding the design is it possible to design this retaining wall in robot 

your suggestions are highly appreciated 

shifted column on retaining wall.PNG

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Artur.Kosakowski
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Hi @me1205377

 

IMHO the best way to model the offset is to use rigid links. Unless your retaining wall is just a wall of a building being under the ground level so that it boundary conditions are a foundation at its bottom and a slab at its top modelling it in a general FEM program will be tricky as you relay on the equilibrium of forces to secure the wall stability rather than supports.

 

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me1205377
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the top slab is not resting on soil, it the ceiling of the basement behind the indicated retaining wall  

i am sorry  i couldn't  understand the situation you described

i made the offset with one rigid link.  i added a node to the retaining wall top side and made it the master node, the slave node was the column bottom node , all degrees of freedom are locked is this enough ?

also regarding the design of such wall, is it possible in robot 

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Artur.Kosakowski
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Hi @me1205377

 

Could you attach the cross section through the wall so that I could better understand the situation?

 

cross section.PNG



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retainig wall and col section.PNG

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Artur.Kosakowski
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Hi @me1205377

 

IMHO you can design this wall in RSA as it is more a basement wall rather than a retaining wall. For calculations of reinforcement I'd use RC Slab approach (for you have out of the plane bending) as explained during the 5th Robot webinar. I think that the definition of the rigid link as you described it is fine. 

 

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just for my info what is the difference between a basement wall and a retaining wall 

 

for the :basement wall"  i will define it as a   panel not a wall with shell calculation model correct ? 

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Artur.Kosakowski
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Hi @me1205377

just for my info what is the difference between a basement wall and a retaining wall 

 

basement wall vs retaining wall.PNG

 

for the :basement wall"  i will define it as a   panel not a wall with shell calculation model correct ? 

 

Correct.

 

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