Panel maps axial loads Nyy results compared to reduced results for panel results

Panel maps axial loads Nyy results compared to reduced results for panel results

skellyRSA2023
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Panel maps axial loads Nyy results compared to reduced results for panel results

skellyRSA2023
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Hi,

 

I was wondering could someone help me or be able to give me an explanation. when comparing panel map results Nyy for a wall panel to reduced results for a wall panel do the map results Nyy include the forces due to in plane moments such as MRz (panel results) and NRx (axial load) as shown on the reduced results for panels table, or do these need to be added also to the panel maps, i.e. in reduced results for panels these are additive i.e. NRx and MRz for the same load. Thus does panel maps Nyy give you the maximum axial load at that specific point or only for the axial load component? See attached pdf, 2 sheets. I hope I explaining myself correctly. Anyone's help on this would be most appreciated. 

 

Simon. 

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Nyy and Nxx are the final membrane normal forces and are given per meter on panel maps on the choosen direction.

Reduced results are an integration of the forces along 6 pre-defined cuts (4 along the edges and 2 along the middle) on a retangular panel

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Thanks for getting back Rafa. Just to be clear when you refer to "final membrane normal forces" you are saying that these Nyy and Nxx forces when shown in maps, are the resultant axial forces in that direction then of any axial load applied and the in plane moments in the wall panel for that load under consideration? Sorry if I am a bit slow on this, as it does get me slightly confused, lol. Hence if I was designing a wall panel for a maximum axial load in kN/m I could use the maps to locate this using Nyy etc.

 

Thanks,

 

S.

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Nxx and Nyy is all there is for normal forces. Reduced results like in plane moment are just a "sub product" based on the integration of these 2 forces

check https://help.autodesk.com/view/RSAPRO/2021/ENU/?guid=GUID-3936FDA3-5DFD-4F31-B16A-F0208A451282

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Many thanks Rafa, I think I understand. As an example if I had say a 6m long wall panel x 3m high, and I place a Vertical 150kN point load on extreme upper edge corner of the panel and review the reduced results for panels it gives me a NRx Value of 150kN and MRz value of 450KNm when reviewing the panel cut results for the lower horizontal cut plane. However when I review the Nxx panel maps it gives a axial load at the extreme bottom Edge of near 126kN/m, this matches the reactions at this end of the wall also which is 126kN/m at the extreme edge when these are view under diagrams for bars/reactions/linear results for walls, thus the Nxx value for the maps is the resultant if these two components which are noted in the reduced results for Panels table. Thanks for your explanation and time. 

S. 

 

 

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