Hollow Sections Column-Beam Connections

[Anonymous]

Hi,

Is it possible to use a steel hollow section as the beam member when designing a column-beam connection in Robot Structural Analysis 2012 Pro?

According to online user guide (link below), hollow sections seem to only be available for column members of base connections.

http://docs.autodesk.com/RSA/2012/ENU/filesROBOT/GUID-435C42C0-C4E8-4970-B78E-A52E21B08C6-1058.htm

Any help is much appreicated,

Thanks

[Artur.Kosakowski · Accepted solution]

No, this is not possible. The easiest way of checking the available section types for particular connection is to check which of the parametric section icons are not grayed out as shown on the attached picture.

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[Anonymous]

Hi Artur,

Thanks for getting back to me so quickly. That's a pity. Was hoping for some work around.

Possible future feature!

Thanks again,

James.

[Anonymous]

hello

I am interested in designing a steel connection with a double H profile. It's for a base column.

I don't have it available on robot, i can only design a I profile or a tube.

Neither the user defined compound won't work.

What should i do ?

Thank you

Ruxandra

[Anonymous]

Hello

I need to calculate a base plate for a steel column a double HEB

It is not availabe in the section selection.

Is there any possibility to have this calcul done ?

Thank you

[Artur.Kosakowski]

With such section not being supported you may try to use the user defined structural tube and stiffeners instead if this is acceptable for you.

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[Anonymous]

Hi,

I am looking for connection design for HSS column to W section BEam. However in the Robot I am not able to find the HSS section for column. I have attached screen shot of the database for columns available in Robot . So can you please help me out

[Artur.Kosakowski]

For this connection type structural tubes are not supported.

[Anonymous]

Thank you fro the reply, but in our stores we work with same conditions. column (HSS) to Beam (Wsec). so can you plase let me know if in case we have to use HSS column do we have database fo rthe same in robot ? Thanks Sampath

[Anonymous]

Hi,

I have attached scenorio for the HSS column to W Beam section. can you please help me out in steel connection for the same.

Thanks,

Sampath

[Artur.Kosakowski]

You can use structural tubes as profiles for beams and columns but they are not supported for the connection type you would like to use.

[Anonymous]

Thank you for the support,

i tried doing that but i am unable to click on the different shapes. I have attached screen shot of the issue

[Artur.Kosakowski]

Apparently I haven't managed to state that clearly enough. You can use both types of profiles in the model (see the attached picture) but structural tubes (HSS) are not supported in the connection module of Robot for beam to column web connection so you cannot select them from the connection definition dialog.

[Anonymous]

Arthur,  i  saw users observation regarding  Hollow section column and I beams  connection in robot . I m aware that   robot cant support these types of connections. instead  Advance streel opnce  exported the analysies output and model from robot can perform   the connections that Robot cant  support? in office we  are planning to aquire Advance steel.

1.I already installed Advanced steel  using Autodesk community  licence but the ADVANCE REVIT STEEL EXTENSION  after installing it DOES NOT   appear AS PLUG-IN in Revit.

 2.In the meantime any tip you can give to speed up the hollow section colum to I beam  connection  production drawing?

I m aware  we can "cheat"  in Revit  a bit but still time consuming.

Thanks,

Ernesto Cornwall

[Artur.Kosakowski]

You can export RSA model to AS along with calculated forces in the way shown on this movie:

Then you can design connections for these forces in AS:

The RST to AS link can be downloaded from:

https://apps.autodesk.com/RVT/en/Detail/Index?id=appstore.exchange.autodesk.com%3Aadvancesteel2016ex...

 2.In the meantime any tip you can give to speed up the hollow section colum to I beam  connection  production drawing?

I'm not sure which program you want to use for generation of these drawings but assuming that it is either AS or Revit I'd suggest posting your question on their dedicated forums instead. 

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