Can't mesh complex slab

Can't mesh complex slab

StefanoPasquini6790
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Can't mesh complex slab

StefanoPasquini6790
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Hi everyone, I have a lot of problem to mesh this complex slab and I can't understand why.

 

See the attached models, pleas help me.

 

Greetings


PasProStudio

www.pasquiniprogetti.eu

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Message 2 of 17

t.sautierr
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some of your panels weren't flat (tolerance :0.01) using flatness API -> using geometry (API) converter to divide into triangles.

mesh is not that cool (big smoothing) but at least it calculates -> play with the delaunay parameters (as is is triangles and "turning" coons don't provide proper mesh)

 

see ya.

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StefanoPasquini6790
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Thanks a lot for your commitment and your suggestion. I already use geometry converter and already use triangular FE. When the meshing procedure arrive to 77% in my pc, Robot freeze. Using Delunay parametrs, as you suggest, everything goes ok!!!

 

You are great.

 

Greetings and thank you once again


PasProStudio

www.pasquiniprogetti.eu

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Message 4 of 17

t.sautierr
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Could make this way also, but I don't manage to keep the line straight along the extrusion, it turns ... rafal,artur any idea?

However, it make good mesh even with coons.

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Artur.Kosakowski
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t.sautierr
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beautiful artur, you use the trick you shew me some time ago, but I meant starting from a line and a polyline, how do you extrude the line along the polyline without having the line rotating, eg : make a curved translation and not curve only.

do you a trick to do the same only with extrusion?

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Artur.Kosakowski
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With the limitation of the current user interface you will not be able to control the rotation while extruding along the polyline like yours.

 

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StefanoPasquini6790
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Hi Artur

 

The calculated model made using your procedure (attachend in this mail), give me an incredible reinforcement area, the loads was 4 KN/mq for dead loads and 4 KN/mq for live loads. I'm not sure that this can be the real reinfocement.

 

Any suggestion about it????

 

Greetings


PasProStudio

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Structural + Detailing engineers
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Message 9 of 17

Artur.Kosakowski
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Have you checked the values of forces including Mxy? Are they as expected? It doesn't make sens to look at reinforcements before checking other results first.



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Message 10 of 17

StefanoPasquini6790
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Well,

 

I made a simply model with equivalent beams and as I can see the reinforcement is absolutely impossible to put on it.

 

So, I have increased the thickness of the slab from 25 to 30 cm, now I need to do a stiffner beam in the middle of the ramp, but when I try to create this stiffner the complex slab it going crazy.

 

Any suggestion???

 

Greetings


PasProStudio

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Message 11 of 17

Artur.Kosakowski
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Could you be more detailed and explain what you man by slab going crazy? Smiley Happy 

Perhaps you could attach the current version of your model and couple of screen captures that illustrate the issue that you would like to solve?



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Message 12 of 17

StefanoPasquini6790
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HI Artur,

 

Sorry for my "not answer" of yesterday but I was out of office for work.

 

The following picture show what I mean for "going crazy":

crazy.jpg

 

Well, I used the midline points of the complex shell to create the underwall as a stiffener, but the shape of the upper complex slab it show an out of plane shape, I can't understand what really happened.

 

However, working with materials and loads (depnding by the construction method of the stair) I found a possibly solution. My question now is that:

 

How can I set the reinforcing direction parallel and orthogonal to the midline of the complex slab? I'd like to use curved bars for longitudinal rebar and radial ones for transverse rebar, as shown in the following picture:

 

Complex slab reinforcement.jpg

 

How can I do this??????

 

Here comes the model.

 

Thanks a lot, cheers

 


PasProStudio

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Message 13 of 17

Artur.Kosakowski
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Like that?

 

reinf directions.png

 

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Message 14 of 17

StefanoPasquini6790
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Absolutely perfect, this is the right model.....

 

Greetings and, as always, thank you!


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Message 15 of 17

Anonymous
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I have a similar problem .. Mesh is created out of the floor plan !!!  I tried all mesh types but I couldn't solve the problem, so pls could someone fix this problem for me ??

(Pls, see attached screenshots) 

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Rafacascudo
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You cannot do a panel like that.

Divide it ,at least, in 3 distinct panels.

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Message 17 of 17

Anonymous
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Dear @Rafacascudo ,

Sorry for the delay in replying and thank you a lot for your answer ..  the problem is fixed

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