Structural Framing Joint Cutback at Start/End of Structural Wall

Structural Framing Joint Cutback at Start/End of Structural Wall

PTo-TT
Participant Participant
1,548 Views
5 Replies
Message 1 of 6

Structural Framing Joint Cutback at Start/End of Structural Wall

PTo-TT
Participant
Participant

Hi,

I have a problem with steel framing cutback at ends of structural wall, they cannot show cutback distance same as framings between the span of 02 walls. My question is it possible to make steel beams at wall ends to have the same cutback distance as normally? If you had any idea, please help me, most appreciate!

PToTT_0-1715590921023.pngPToTT_1-1715590937860.png

 

0 Likes
Accepted solutions (1)
1,549 Views
5 Replies
Replies (5)
Message 2 of 6

jay_colc
Mentor
Mentor
Accepted solution

I do not think it is possible within the Properties.  The vertical Beams have a Cutback Value in the Properties whereas the Horizontal Beam Do Not and it must be due to the automatic association with the walls for the Vertical beams.

 

Therefore the closest to automatically doing this I can think of would be to replicate it by placing a Dummy Wall to host the Horizontal Beams and unjoin so it is not linked to the existing walls and draw the beams from this wall then hide it?

 

jay_colcombe_0-1715596818313.pngjay_colcombe_1-1715596843363.png

 

jay_colcombe_2-1715596860915.pngjay_colcombe_3-1715596877244.png

 

 

Jay Colcombe

Autodesk Certified Instructor
Revit Architecture & Structure Certified Professional
AutoCAD Certified Professional
B.Sc. Hons Civil & Structural Engineering

If you find my post interesting, feel free to give a Kudo.
If it solves your problem, please click Accept to enhance the Forum.
0 Likes
Message 3 of 6

jay_colc
Mentor
Mentor

The alternative would be to manually Drag the Symbolic Line away from the Wall and Drag the Beam Shape Handle Arrow back to the Face of the Wall

jay_colcombe_4-1715597238834.png

 

Jay Colcombe

Autodesk Certified Instructor
Revit Architecture & Structure Certified Professional
AutoCAD Certified Professional
B.Sc. Hons Civil & Structural Engineering

If you find my post interesting, feel free to give a Kudo.
If it solves your problem, please click Accept to enhance the Forum.
0 Likes
Message 4 of 6

PTo-TT
Participant
Participant

Thank you very much @jay_colc , but I think this is not my best solution since we are about making structural drawing sheets from views, so the cutback distance must be consistency at every scale. Thank you again for your idea!

0 Likes
Message 5 of 6

charlie
Community Visitor
Community Visitor

Why does the cutback option drop off of beams?  Sometimes I will have both cutbacks available, sometimes one and then sometimes neither.  It is very frustrating when Revit decides what it wants to do by itself.  I've tried re-placing new beams and it gives me the same thing.  There doesn't seem to be any reasoning as to how the program decides the way it wants to display.  The option to change cutback reference is grayed out.  That is one of the worst features of this program.  I'll place a beam system and 3/4 of the beams will show correctly while the other 1/4 shows no cutback.  Is there a way to force it to have a cutback when one doesn't seem to be available?  I shouldn't have to jump through hoops to make the program display the correct way.

 

Thanks, 

 

Charlie

Message 6 of 6

PTo-TT
Participant
Participant

@charlie 
It's probably 1/4 of framings you mentioned were not joined with anything at their ends. The cutback mechanism is only show if that framing is modeled as joined with other framing, wall or column.

0 Likes