Rounded line ends in front of detail items

Rounded line ends in front of detail items

Anonymous
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Rounded line ends in front of detail items

Anonymous
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When printed, line ends become rounded and those rounded line ends cover the actual detail items. See images.

How do I avoid / control that? Visual style: Hidden line. Raster printing is not a possibility.

 

Screen.PNG             Printed.PNG

As seen on the screen                                                   As printed (issues marked with red)

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Anonymous
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@Anonymous,

Hi.

Did you try bringing the detail item forward? Is that an option? If not, how about creating a mask region to take the place of the detail item portion having the rebar lines over lapping into its center.  

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L.Maas
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Besides suggestions by @Anonymous. Also have a look at the printer settings/driver or  try another (PDF?) printer and see if that works

Louis

EESignature

Please mention Revit version, especially when uploading Revit files.

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Anonymous
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@L.Maas
Tried another PDF, tried printing straight from Revit to paper, checked on drivers, still same result.

 

@Anonymous

Yes I did had detail items "Bring to front" as you can see from my screen image. Masking region did not helped (and it would be a disaster to do so for all the details).

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Rafal.Gaweda
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Hi @Anonymous

 

What about using vector print vs raster print?

Can You post  \ send revit file with just this example?

 



Rafal Gaweda
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Anonymous
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@Rafal.Gaweda
Yes I do use vector processing. With raster processing there is a bunch of other problems, therefore I don't want this problem to be solved just by someone saying "use raster printing".

Attached small revit file with problem.

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jbrazier
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It's because you are using very thick single lines for your rebar.  The dot you're seeing at the endpoint, when you print, is the "pen tip", the line ends at the center of the dot.  All lines have this affect, you just don't notice with thin lines.  You may be able to change the settings on your printer from round ends to square ends.

Jon Brazier
Director of Production Technology
O'Donnell & Naccarato
Philadelphia, Pa.
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Anonymous
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@jbrazier
You are right, it applies to all lines, but in this case I cannot use thinner lines.
If you can control it on your PDF printer, please let me know which PDF printer you are using.
My printer does not have such settings available.

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Rafal.Gaweda
Autodesk Support
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Hi @Anonymous

 

As mentioned before it is related to "pen" shape.

I am afraid it can not be changed.

So far the workaround is to use raster print or move some lines to get correct printout result.



Rafal Gaweda
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Cory-Dubeau
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I'd like to actually chip in to this conversation as well. I have many quarrels with Revit as far as graphics go architecturally, but this one irks me quite a bit- (especially with leaders and dim ticks).

And before I get lit up about how I don't have to correct postscript drivers, or don't understand the CAD-to-Revit modality, I argue that even Adobe's (albeit limited) vector capabilities are even more involved. Both Photoshop and Illustrator allow for configuring end styles (via the pen tool) and ultimately when flattened / rasterized or plotted, it preserves the end styles without flaw.

Furthermore, for a software that costs almost twice as much as it's predecessor (ACAD), I am amazed that Revit doesn't come bundled with a dedicated print driver. (???) (In my experience I've found Autodesk's post-script drivers superior to Adobe's, but maybe there are better solutions?).

It's astonishing how a simple menu such as the plot configuration menu in ACAD exists, yet Revit has no such option to configure line terminations. Not to mention, the fact that you need to manage a plethora of line styles to achieve the various lines needed in details (membranes being a key one) can be cumbersome as you may require varying weights and patterns. And not to mention the turmoil you may put you BIM manager trying to keep track of all these varying line types.


I respect that Revit is more of a modelling software than a drafting one, and that the drawings it produces are generative, which is great but perhaps a more immersive VG override or line styles manager ought to be considered?

I suppose for now, the best solution is to outsource the drawings from ACAD in a drafting view to achieve the necessary drafting intent, but here's hoping they dial it back and provide some more immersive drafting tools.

Again, not here to hate on Revit, just fatigued from always finding workarounds (They literally have a website called 'wrw.is (what revit wants is[...])') to better convey my meaning.