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Rebar Limitations for Wall by Face

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Anonymous
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Rebar Limitations for Wall by Face

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I came across a Rebar Limitations for Wall by Face. When using Revit massing tools, specifically Wall by Face command, I am not able to add rebars to sloped walls by face but if the wall by face is vertical then rebars can be added. Furthermore structural wall properties are not allowed. On the other hand Model-in-place families will allow adding free form rebar. How can rebars be added to sloped walls created using the walls by face command. See attached screen captures. Thanks!Rebar_in-place free form wall.pngRebar not allowed_sloped wall by face.png

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Rebar Limitations for Wall by Face

I came across a Rebar Limitations for Wall by Face. When using Revit massing tools, specifically Wall by Face command, I am not able to add rebars to sloped walls by face but if the wall by face is vertical then rebars can be added. Furthermore structural wall properties are not allowed. On the other hand Model-in-place families will allow adding free form rebar. How can rebars be added to sloped walls created using the walls by face command. See attached screen captures. Thanks!Rebar_in-place free form wall.pngRebar not allowed_sloped wall by face.png

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ovidiu_paunescu
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Hello @Anonymous

 

Walls by face are considered architectural, that's why rebar cannot be added to such an element. Also, that is why the structural features (analytical model) are not available.

 

Like you mentioned, you can model the geometry using model-in-place families and add reinforcement to it.

You can also use generic adaptive families or mass families inside generic model ones, and place rebar in those (be sure to check the option "can host rebar" in the properties palette)

 

When using free form rebar, you can also try the shape matching functionality (by changing Workshop Instructions to Bend). This will match the geometry of the bar to existing rebar shapes, or create new ones, and will allow you to extract segment lengths for scheduling.

More about shape matching here

 



Ovidiu Paunescu, M.Sc. Str. Eng.

Sr. Product Owner | Autodesk Revit

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Hello @Anonymous

 

Walls by face are considered architectural, that's why rebar cannot be added to such an element. Also, that is why the structural features (analytical model) are not available.

 

Like you mentioned, you can model the geometry using model-in-place families and add reinforcement to it.

You can also use generic adaptive families or mass families inside generic model ones, and place rebar in those (be sure to check the option "can host rebar" in the properties palette)

 

When using free form rebar, you can also try the shape matching functionality (by changing Workshop Instructions to Bend). This will match the geometry of the bar to existing rebar shapes, or create new ones, and will allow you to extract segment lengths for scheduling.

More about shape matching here

 



Ovidiu Paunescu, M.Sc. Str. Eng.

Sr. Product Owner | Autodesk Revit

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I appreciate your fast reply. Our clients who work with civil structures such as underground Tunnels and Dams need this feature to be changed. Clients working on Tunnels and Dams, utilizing Massing tools such as wall by face, floor by face and roof by face, should be able to change their element properties from architectural to structural, enable analytical, modify material physical assets, and add rebars. Please include that in the future software development to do list. Thanks!

Rabi Sidawi, AIA
404-564-1854<404-564-1854>
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ovidiu.paunescu
I appreciate your fast reply. Our clients who work with civil structures such as underground Tunnels and Dams need this feature to be changed. Clients working on Tunnels and Dams, utilizing Massing tools such as wall by face, floor by face and roof by face, should be able to change their element properties from architectural to structural, enable analytical, modify material physical assets, and add rebars. Please include that in the future software development to do list. Thanks!

Rabi Sidawi, AIA
404-564-1854<404-564-1854>
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ovidiu_paunescu
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ovidiu_paunescu
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It would be very good if you could add this to the Revit Ideas forum, so other users can share their support and use cases for it.



Ovidiu Paunescu, M.Sc. Str. Eng.

Sr. Product Owner | Autodesk Revit

It would be very good if you could add this to the Revit Ideas forum, so other users can share their support and use cases for it.



Ovidiu Paunescu, M.Sc. Str. Eng.

Sr. Product Owner | Autodesk Revit

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