Rebar detailing

[Anonymous]

I am trying to make my concrete detailing more consistent and easily updated when designs change however, I am have 2 problems that are preventing me from doing this. 

1) I need a tag that says what the "max spacing" of a steel area is not the actual spacing and I have not been able to find the parameter combination in the label to do this.

2) The tag for a manually placed mat of steel goes to the center of the group and not to an actual bar so the tag end is just floating in space as seen below. I can make the leader a free end but then it is not attached to anything and is only marginally better than annotating with text. I want to have a snap point on one of the steel bars the leader can attach to.

[christian.riley]

@Anonymous -

Thank you for your post!

I am going to do a bit of research for issue #1 to see if there's another option for you.

As for issue #2, the tags and leaders default to snap to the center of the object they are pointing at. At this time there is no way to default this to snap to another location. This would be an excellent post in the Revit Ideas forum.

[christian.riley]

@Anonymous -

I was able to get the max spacing to show by selecting the "Rebar Tag : Type Spacing & Number". This shows the spacing I placed in Max Spacing and not the actual spacing between the rebar.

I hope this helps!

[christian.riley]

@Anonymous - 

I just wanted to take a moment and check in to see if you still needed assistance on this issue.

Please let me know if I can still help!

[Anonymous]

Unfortunately, that did not fix my problem. I switched the tag as you recommended and this was the result.

It works with the rebar tool (used on the base) but not the area steel tool (used on the wall) if that makes since

[christian.riley]

@Anonymous - 

I was able to find the answer as to why it is unaffected and not giving us the appropriate distance. Effectively, the Area Steel is a group of rebar, that group does not carry a parameter for Maximum Spacing. Once the area is placed the only way to tag the Maximum Spacing is to remove the Area Boundary. Please see the video below. 

Rebar Max Spacing

If you would like the Max Spacing added to Area Reinforcement I would definitely recommend suggesting it in the Revit Ideas forums

Revit Ideas

[christian.riley]

@Anonymous -

Please let me know if my last post answered your question or if you need further information. I look forward to hearing from you!

[james.melvillEHTCX]

HI Christian, 

I have been struggling with the same issue that Thomas has. Normal rebar tags give the spacing defined in the parameter properties. But rebar placed as area rebar when the system is removed gives the actual spacing which would never be required on a project. Even though the parameter exists in the properties entered. It just needs to be linked over to the rebar system from the area system.  Also in the area system tag there is a tag that gives the max spacing but does not allow for the rebar number or schedule number so this tag and parameter set is again half baked. 

I was looking to see if there was a way to create these parameters or add them to the area rebar system tag. Given your replies to Thomas this seems not to be possible? Is that right? 

And yes. I will be adding these as suggestions. 

[silicongcc6BLGX]

I’m trying to make my concrete detailing more consistent and easier to update when designs change, but I’m running into two issues:

1) Max Spacing Tag Issue:
I need to create a tag that shows the maximum spacing for a steel area rather than the actual bar spacing. I’ve tried various parameter combinations in the label, but I haven’t been able to find a solution. Has anyone figured out a way to display max spacing in a tag?

2) Manual Mat of Steel Tagging Issue:
When I place a manual mat of steel, the tag leader defaults to the center of the group instead of attaching to an actual bar. This leaves the tag leader floating in space, as shown below. I can make the leader a free end, but then it’s not connected to anything — which doesn’t feel much better than plain text annotations. Ideally, I’d like to have a snap point on one of the steel bars that the leader can attach to.