Parts of Beams or Columns overlap?

[Anonymous]

I'm trying to create a basic structure model to submit for analysis to the cloud, but when I try to submit to A360 I get this error message: "Parts of Beams or Columns overlap". Is there any way to make the ends of the trusses connect, but not overlap? 

[dzanta]

there are two models you need to verify when doing structural analysis (building model and analytical model).  verify the analytical model shows connections are clean and not overlapping...then verify the building model is good.

[Anonymous]

The truss tool automatically creates a vertical at the end if that's how the truss layout family was set up.  I'm not sure if Revit tries to be too smart and put a vertical in regardless but you can try editing the truss layout family to not have end verticals and assign that layout family to the minor trusses. 

You other option (manual) is to select the end vertical of the connecting truss (the one that frames into the larger one) and unpin it then delete it.  Unfortunately Revit my try to put it back in if you "touch" the truss in some way that would make it try to re-calculate itself. 

Best of luck.  You might want to take the "brute force" approach of creating the trusses and then "removing truss system" or whatever (same idea as exploding it) and then manage the elements yourself. 

I truly (and only a few people will understand how much) wish that this functionality was better for implementation of "real" trusses though the features of attach top/bottom and sketch top/bottom are so powerful that it's hard to not at least attempt to use them at first.

Good luck.

-Ken

[Anonymous]

One more idea... you could set the end verticals of the trusses framing in to "non-structural" thereby turning off the analytical model and solving the symptom that your A360 model won't run.

[LyleHardin]

We're having a similar issue with cross bracing. Many of our structures have Double, Double L bracing.

The analytical models show two lines on top of one another when we model the double, double L bracing.

I'm not sure what to do to separate the analytical lines.

Deleting one just doesn't seem right.