Modify wall section

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Modify wall section

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whats the best way to Modify wall section. Should I go for profile hosted family ? but when I open it I dont get any clue how to use this.

Is there any other way?

can someone pls guide through about modifying wall section.

 

Thanks in Advance

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RDAOU
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Hello @Anonymous

 

You need to elaborate on what you want to do...at least the basic intent of what you are trying to do. Short question may lead to misleading solutions. (Similar to your other post; the accepted solution can mislead a begginer to do something which does have undesired consequences and I personnaly believe that this is not the intent of this forum)

 

A detailed question is more than 75% of the right, accurate and complete Answer.

 

 

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How can I model wall which looks as in attached image

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RDAOU
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Those are called Gravity/Retaining wall...If that is what you want to do there are at least 5 methods I can think of...here are the simplest and least complicated:

 

Method 1

Massing and Site > In Place Mass (Same applies if you want to do it in a family then save and load it into the project). You can either do it in two portions (Wall + Foundation then join the two geometries) or one portion (Wall and Foundation extruded together)

  1. First begin with modeling a new Mass.  Trace a chain of lines to form the contour at the bottom level of the wall and an offset of this chain at the top level (aligned one side and other side variate to form the angle you require).
  2. Select the two paths (bottom level and upper level) and use the command Create Form > Solid Form and then check Finish Mass. You get a wall with slopped surface onto which you can later apply Wall >Wall by Face> select Retaining Wall from the list (In case you want to schedule later)
  3. Repeat the same for the foundation and up two you if you want them two elements or one element.

PS: You can select family &  category to suit the purpose you intend to use this G-wall for. I would personally pick Generic or Wall or any other  category which can host rebars, openings and inserts depends what it's (the Gravity wall) priorty use is

 

Method 2 (I prefer this)

Another easy way is Component > Model in Place > Family Category and Parameters> Walls ... and use Blend/sweep… (Trace the profile section you showed in the attached picture wall + foundation) and then Sweep along a path which you have on your site.

See Movie from YouTube below

 

 

Method 3

I think this is what you were refering to in your original post. Although many use this method; I personally DON'T like this for 2 main reasons; you can not quantify sweeps built in to the wall structure and you can not add rebars to them. And scond reason is because I don't like using Revit just to create useless element which do not serve any other purpose except a graphical one. There are better ways to do that than using built in wall sweeps.

 

Anyhow; to that you can use a hosted profile family to create a sweep which you can apply to the Wall. To do this go to

  1. First Create the profile using hosted profile family
  2. Model it to look like a right pointy triangle and save it as a family
  3. In your project draw a foundation wall
  4. In the Properties Edit Type > Structure > Edit ….
  5. At the bottom change preview to the section view. This will enable sweeps
  6. Go to the sweeps menu and add the profile you created above as a sweep to the wall (it will be basically a sweep along the whole front elevation top to bottom)
  7. When done you can then apply wall foundation to the wall from structural tab
  8. Then when done select the foundation and change its eccentricity in the Properties dialog in order to center it below your gravity wall.

Other Methods

There are a few Extensions and Add-ins you can get from Autodesk Store which can model retaining and gravity walls in a very detailed manner including reinfrocement steel, rebar schedules ...etc

Another extension which I can think of is Site Designer which is a subscription app but now is free for EDU accounts too. I know it has retaining wall tool but not sure how close it can get to what you want

 

 

If the above is what you require accept as solution and suites the purpose you need to use this wall for ..Accept as solution.

If you prefer ONE particular method and need help with it...name it and I can record a screencast with the command lines and load it here once I get back to the office.

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Hi RDAOU,

 

Thanks for your indepth explaination, Your post helped to solve the problem

 

 2nd method is easy and used as solution

 

 I gave shot to  3rd method and came up with some questions, 

 

 how does the revit determine which side of wall the profile should go once loaded.

 

 I drawn profile right side of the center LR Ref Plane in family but when loaded it appeared left side of wall not sure why

 

 Thanks in advance

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RDAOU
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Hello again @Anonymous

 

Following to your request, I did this screencast for the alternative Solution in method 3. I thought it would be a better way to clarify it... Hope it is helpful

 

On a Side note, Revit does have OOTB families for Retaining walls which you can also use...see image below (the two retaining walls placed to the side)

 

Gravity Walls.png

 

 

 

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Anonymous
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Thanks,

your screencast has really helped to understand how the profile-hosted family works

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RDAOU
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@Anonymous you are more than welcome. I'm glad it helped

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