Crop Region behavior with View Template applied from Enable Temporary Apply View Properties

[Anonymous]

We discovered an odd behavior with a rotated Crop Region when applying a View template from the Enable Temporary View Properties tool.

Here, I have a rotated Crop Region done the most common way:

Here's the result after the rotation, which is what we want:

Now, when I apply a View Template using the Enable Temporary View Properties tool, I get the following result:

Notice how it rotated the view back with its rotation center at the Project Base Point? This is caused by the Orientation parameter in the View Template being set to "Enable".

Now, when we restore the Temporary View Properties, here's what happens:

 

The view gets rotated back but the Crop Region remained at its Temporary View Properties location, which is incorrect!

Note that unchecking the "Enable" checkbox from the Orientation parameter in the View Template would not cause the Crop Region to move like that.

When simply changing the View Template from the Properties window, we do not get this problem. Here's the View Template applied:

 

Here's the original View Template restored:

Looks perfectly fine that way. From what I understand, those two ways of applying a View Template should get the same results, right?

So, what's going on with the Temporary View Properties messing up the Crop Region? Can anyone help explain what may cause this?

Thanks

[Anonymous]

We discovered an odd behavior with a rotated Crop Region when applying a View template from the Enable Temporary View Properties tool.

Here, I have a rotated Crop Region done the most common way:

Here's the result after the rotation, which is what we want:

Now, when I apply a View Template using the Enable Temporary View Properties tool, I get the following result:

Notice how it rotated the view back with its rotation center at the Project Base Point? This is caused by the Orientation parameter in the View Template being set to "Enable".

Now, when we restore the Temporary View Properties, here's what happens:

 

The view gets rotated back but the Crop Region remained at its Temporary View Properties location, which is incorrect!

Note that unchecking the "Enable" checkbox from the Orientation parameter in the View Template would not cause the Crop Region to move like that.

When simply changing the View Template from the Properties window, we do not get this problem. Here's the View Template applied:

 

Here's the original View Template restored:

Looks perfectly fine that way. From what I understand, those two ways of applying a View Template should get the same results, right?

So, what's going on with the Temporary View Properties messing up the Crop Region? Can anyone help explain what may cause this?

Thanks

[_Vijay]

yes, after setting our view you  can create view template from view. and apply others. or share sample with view lets take a look.

[_Vijay]

yes, after setting our view you  can create view template from view. and apply others. or share sample with view lets take a look.

[Anonymous]

I'm not asking if we can create a View Template from a view. I'm asking why the Crop Region orientation gets messed up when applying a View Template from the Enable Temporary View Properties.

[Anonymous]

I'm not asking if we can create a View Template from a view. I'm asking why the Crop Region orientation gets messed up when applying a View Template from the Enable Temporary View Properties.

[lionel.kai]

sounds like a bug. did you send to support?

[lionel.kai]

sounds like a bug. did you send to support?

[kent.w]

Hi Patrick,

I can confirm this behavior in Revit 2021.  It is a bit weird.

The easy fix and probably a better solution than rotating crop regions is to create a scope box and assign it to the view, then this behavior does not present itself.

[kent.w]

Hi Patrick,

I can confirm this behavior in Revit 2021.  It is a bit weird.

The easy fix and probably a better solution than rotating crop regions is to create a scope box and assign it to the view, then this behavior does not present itself.

[Anonymous]

Thanks Kent for the proposed solution. I will notify the support of this weird behavior in the meantime.

[Anonymous]

Thanks Kent for the proposed solution. I will notify the support of this weird behavior in the meantime.

[dzeibin]

We are having a similar issue but with 3D Views. (e.g. a perspective) If you change the crop size, then use the Temporary View Properties, it will reset the 3D view crop size to 6" wide. Does anyone know why Temporary View Properties affects the crop size/position at all?

[dzeibin]

We are having a similar issue but with 3D Views. (e.g. a perspective) If you change the crop size, then use the Temporary View Properties, it will reset the 3D view crop size to 6" wide. Does anyone know why Temporary View Properties affects the crop size/position at all?