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An attached Structural Foundation will be moved to the bottom of the Column.

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chitru_adesk
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An attached Structural Foundation will be moved to the bottom of the Column.

I am trying to place a Structural Steel Column in a deck But after placed, the structural foundation ( Pile with end cap) is automatically moved the bottom of the column. 

 

Please assist me to resolve this issue I have been struck for a long time because of this issue.

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Message 2 of 12
Anonymous
in reply to: chitru_adesk

Try to use Height when placing structural columns.

 

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Message 3 of 12
weehur
in reply to: Anonymous

Dear, I encounter the same problem, but can't be resolved by the method introduced by  your good self, is there any other solution? thanks.  

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thillYSMCS
in reply to: weehur

Found myself with the same issue the above solution was not compatible - easy fix for me was cutting a section and locking the top of my pilecap in place. Hope this helps. Pilecap solution.JPG

Message 5 of 12
Anonymous
in reply to: thillYSMCS

It did not work for me. Revit keeps moving the footing. THE BEST SOLUTION WOULD BE THAT AUTODESK GUYS ALLOW US, THE USERS, TO SELECT IF WE WANT TO ATTACH THE FOOTING TO THE BOTTOM OF THE COLUMN, PERIOD. THE SAME GOES FOR THE "ALLOW JOIN" IN STRUCTURAL FRAMING.

AUTODESK: PLEASE, LISTEN TO THE ACTUAL USERS

Message 6 of 12

I've also tried to come up with some way to avoid this "functionality". It's very dangerous that the elevation of footings can move like this and there is no way to prevent it.

The best solution I've come up with is to use generic model category for foundations. The downside of this is that your Structural Foundation schedules can't be used.

 

I'm with Nelson here. I don't see any benefits to this functionality. It should either be removed or at least made optional.

Message 7 of 12
Anonymous
in reply to: tarmo.lahdesmaki

You can add a 'Post_Embedment' parameter in the family and manually offset from the base of the post.

Message 8 of 12
mariamolobo49
in reply to: Anonymous

It worked for me, thanks

Message 9 of 12
matt.lucas.
in reply to: thillYSMCS

I did this with a reference plane that I pinned in place and locked the pad to it. Worked like a charm...thanks for the tip @thillYSMCS .

This issue is why I stopped using foundation families but they might well be back.

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troy_troy
in reply to: Anonymous

@Anonymous  Thank you for a very nice solution.

Message 11 of 12
Albert.Maduro
in reply to: Anonymous

Your proposed solution is working

 

Shukran

Message 12 of 12

I have been looking for solutions for some time and finding the difference between some foundations allowing the column to be covered and others not.
Finally 🙌 I found this combination of Reference Plane types, Defines Origin marked to the base Reference Plane (Ref. Level) with a reference type "TOP", as well as the top of the foundation block as "NOT A REFERENCE"

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