Panel Schedule arrangement and Parameters

[Anonymous]

Good Morning All,

I am currently trying to develop a Panel Schedule template that mimic's our company standard in AutoCAD. I just about have the format down, but I have some stumping questions that me and my team have yet to sort out:

1- Is there a way to "un-mirror" the circuit table columns on either side of the phase columns in the center?

2- Is there a way to override the Phase parameter columns and just display a constant "A, B, C, A, B, C, etc" down the center of the circuit table?

3- Is there a way to create a circuit parameter that locates a circuit defined by the room or space it is in? (i.e. "RECEPTACLE - LOBBY 201")

I've attached images. the first is our template editing view. The second is what we need to see on sheets.

[fabiosato]

Hello,

You can do that in the panel schedule template editor, just place the circuit number parameter in the first column from the load area

[Anonymous]

Yes, the circuit number parameter is already in the schedule though. what I need is to rearrange the outer columns so that they read the same on both sides. (i.e. RECEPTACLE - LOBBY 201 instead of LOBBY 201 - RECEPTACLE)

[fabiosato]

Hello,

I didn´t test, but as I can recall, when you have spaces, the load acquires the space name, but this information is not linked to a parameter, so I am afraid that you can´t change its order.

[Anonymous]

I have seen Panel Schedules with the same columns on both sides before in Revit. I just don't know how to make my columns do what I need them to do.

Short of typing in what I want these to say, I haven't found a solution yet.

[Anonymous]

Default circuit naming is [Load Classification-Space Name-Space Number].  What you want to see is exactly how my panel schedules populate by default.  If you're not capturing that information automatically it's because either you're not creating spaces or the load is outside of the space.  If it's not capturing Load Class you need to map a Load Classification shared parameter to the equivalent connector element property in the family, then assign a value to that parameter, either on an instance or type basis as appropriate.

You can't merge the A:A  B:B C:C phase columns, which drove the guys here nuts for about four years until they finally just got used to it.  At the end of the day there are more important things to worry about than cosmetic crap like that.  Let the architects worry about pretty while we worry about making stuff work.

[Anonymous]

Thanks! As far as the spaces go, will it not recognize the spaces in the architects model? Room and Space tags pick that info up so I don't know why it doesn't recognize for this particular application.

I have found a workaround that can be annoying for "merging the A:A, B:B, C:C columns, just put text on the sheet over the view and pin it all. like I said, it can be annoying. My engineers are picky about merging to Revit because it doesn't allow the same "flexibility" or "precision" in appearance that CAD does... I'm working on that...

Thanks for the input. I will certainly try this out!

[Anonymous]

Tags will recognize elements in linked models, building systems will not.  Unless you're working in a shared AMEP model (don't do this unless it can't be avoided) you have to create spaces to realize the full benefits of Revit.  It's pretty easy to do - select the linked model, in the Type Properties dialog (upper right hand corner next to the big R) check the Room Bounding option, go to the Analyze tab and choose create spaces automatically.  I recommend setting your upper limit to the floor above rather than the default view level +8'-0" Revit likes.

That workaround is a recipe for unmitigated disaster, and when your senior engineers are saying "flexibility" what they really mean is "I don't like change and haven't been flexible in 15 years".  Believe me, I get the challenge, I lived it for quite a few years when we made the transition.  Now none of us would even consider going back to ACAD, Revit is just far superior.